why don't they just become a turkish state?
Don't border Turkey and almost landlockedAlbania had similar issues, in both cases Muslim communities which would've been happy with continued Ottoman rule kind of had to go their own way because of Ottoman weakness and were reluctant to seek independence
>>18214351Converted heretics are submissive
>>18214351>>18214361it's interesting to me how people are still for some reason under the assumption that abrahamic religions are simply religions and not what they actually are, which are full socio-political systems
>>18214320they sure would love to, but they don't have enough muslims
>>18215031If they were part of Türkiye the Serbs wouldn't have been able to genocide themAlbania and Bosnia need Turkish protection
>>18215051Albanians sent the Turks home retardhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_revolt_of_1912
>>18215051True, germanics and Slavs are our enemies but Turks are less so. We don’t like them but they’re better, they did bad things to us and betrayed us though.>>18215783This never would have happened if Turks did execute 500 of our best men, military leaders and chiefs in 1830. Albanians 200 years humiliation began in 1830 and were still trying to recover.
>>18215796Back in the late 70s, there was a bunch of young leftist intellectuals from my country who had your country as their example to imitate.Most of them are right wing liberals now.
>>18215812Because they thought Albania was self sufficient but Albania can’t be self sufficient, not enough land or arable land. We can if we took back the Balkans and deported every sewer mouth Slav dog from our lands which totals around 300,000 sq miles.
>>18215796"Germanics" are the reason both of you even exist.I have absolutely no idea what it is with you jerking off turks who never lifted a finger to help you with anything. It wasnt turkish that flew over Serbia to stop them from giving you what you deserve. Inbred, ungrateful, stupid moslems.
>>18215825Germanics didn’t save us. It would have been preferable if they didn’t involve themselves in 1913 and 1999 since it always backfired negatively for us. In 1999 the war would have expanded and we would have gotten help from other muslims that’s why NATO stopped it. NATO bombings barely killed any Serbs or their armour.
>>18215825And I won’t accept shit from a filthy Germanic rape rat. Kys you goddamn cockroaches would have stayed in your hovels if agriculture didn’t make its way up north and resulted in billions of orcs being bred. Thankfully your reign of terror is soon over.
>>18215828>>18215831Stupid child.
>>18215051The problem with Turkey is that thay have the same mentality as Balkans specially the Serbs and Greeks, They dont offer "protection" without demanding complete submission. You can see this in their issues with the Kurds.
>>18215834Just remember in 1913, Albanians in Albania proper, held off Serbs in the north and Greeks in the south for several months before they were promised to lay down their arms by the Germanic superpowers and guaranteed protection but when they did the Germanic powers let the Slav orcs and grkpsy run amok before they told them to leave a few months before ww1. Should have never listened to the Germanic apes, should have fought and got the Turks back into the fight which they did a few months later anyway. Big mistake, Albanians should never trust any Germanic nation. It’s best to exploit them and kill them when the opportunity presents itself.
>>18214361Bosnia had a gnostic church, retard.Far more spiritual than your brand of kike abrahamism.
Bosniaks and Albanians don't like us as much as you seem to think they do.
>>18215901I'm from bosnia and all we know about turkey comes from telenovellas
>>18215929I'm not surprised.
>>18214320>>18214351>>18215814Why don't Bosnia and Albania and Kosovo link upIs it the Serbs
>>18215954Because Bosnians are Slavs. There’s no inherent relation like you’d find between a Swede and a German.
bosniak muslims especially the devout ones should up their birth rates idk what they are thinking, sunni muslims are 51 percent, im assuming 1/4th of them are devout which should be around 12-15 percent, just one generation of the super devout having a fertility revival in a infertile balkans and they change the region for good
>>18215852>You can see this in their issues with the Kurds.The very existence of Kurds threatens the republican god erected in the wake of the Ottoman empire and the narrative built around it
>>18216850Kurdistan never made any sense to me, it’s a landlocked and pretty useless area, Kurds should have mass immigrants into their areas in turkey and also worked on increasing their birth rates simultaneously, I mean inheriting current turkey democratically through demographics would be much more favorable than kurdistan, controlling the Bosporus and the Dardanelles, Istanbul and the eastern Mediterranean, and the Black Sea coast
>>18216403But novi pazar is just albanians who got slavicized into bosniaks
>>18215831Lmao albania is literally rape rat: the country. What the fuck even is albania? Just the rape baby of greeks, serbians, bulgarians, italians, turks, and probably about a dozen others
>>18218356The entire thread is just trolling and baiting, so don’t put much emphasis on anything anyone says.
>>18214361They only converted to avoid paying tax. Ottomans were notorious for not wanting Christians to convert.
>>18218356They don't rape, they're victims
>>18219870Everyone had to pay taxes in the Ottoman Empire. Muslims also had tax obligations, and instead of some payments, they were sometimes required to provide soldiers for the army.