Antinatalism is correct and morally irrefutable.
>>18216683Considering that whatever child is born was willed to be born, it's not my fault. And besides, there really is nothing like being on top of a woman's soft, warm, naked body and wrapping her in your arms and thrusting until there's nothing left in your balls. You can literally feel your balls and asshole contract and your dick pulse as you shoot semen into her silky pussy. The moaning, the encouragement, the explosion, and then... the silence, the rest, the peace. It's a beautiful thing. Why else are we here? According to you, it's just to work and feed other people's babies? Fuck you, that's stupid.
>>18216690fpbp
>>18216683Even as an angsty depressive I can acknowledge how utterly myopic and juvenile antinatalism is. Just because you might hate life doesn't mean there's not plenty of others out there who enjoy and are grateful for their own. There's nothing wrong with personally choosing not to reproduce but trying to shame others for doing so is just pathetic and ultimately really a projection of your own self-loathing outward.
>>18216683>t. OP
>>18216683I'm not going to stop cumming inside pussy. I'll fucking kill you if you try to stop me.
Still unrefuted.
>>18216683If life is all bad like you claim, why are you still alive?
>>18216739My dick doesn't give a fuck about that.
>>18216683It is valid. Which is a far cry from being correct or irrefutable. The moment you point out that risk reduction isn't the exclusive value to consider, anti-natalism falls apart.
>>18216683Problem with anti natalism is that it assumes that new souls created and not already there just waiting for their turn to live for one, and for the other, the fact that we exist in the first place and not "not exist" is kinda telling you that exists was and is chosen over non-existences, which kinda relates to this point, >>18216683, even thought it's cave man take. There is still a more valuable point there, the existence is whatever you make out of it, there are plenty beautiful in this world to the point it make you feel like it's so great that the whole life was worth loving just to see it. If you sulk in your own shit and misery that there will be nothing but that as far as your eyes can see.
>>18216722https://youtu.be/bAuU-MAZ18Y?si=xmmIDCtmp9vTRrBP
antinatalists and faggots (often one and the same) are just perpetually angry that nature selects for everything they're not
>>18216683Antinatalism is Libertine so it's wrong and stupid
>>18216683What if I like being immoral?
I'm not here to make some whore shit out another slave for Schlomo to work to death, nor do I give a shit about helping anyone else's legacy. >>18216720Kys. Your delusion proves your weakness. I might as well be addressing a handsaw or a breeding sow.
>>18216683Morally speaking, you have no ground to stand on. Fucking retard.
>>18216683You believe forcing life upon others is wrong. So is forcing your own beliefs and morality. Fuck off
>>18217277Anti-Natalism is more narrowly the idea that no one should have children. Not wanting to pop out another goyslave or whatever is fine and dandy. Jumping from there to vociferating about the moral imperative of ending all life (logical conclusion of anti-natalism) because you apparently know better than the entire universe is not.
I support antinatalism's existence because antinatalists tend to be dysgenic and I don't want their genes to spread
>>18217465Based. Get fucked, OP. Shut up and delete this thread, IF you can still do it. Remove your shame. We're all vaginal inseminators here.
This is what happens when people think souls and life isn't sacred they invent the most retarded ideologies to justify their anti life and anti human condition.
>>18216683Ok. You go on thinking that.I am not concerned because no antinatalist group will matter in even 20 years.
>>18217995>muh souls and life is sacredNot an argument.
>>18218528So if life is purely bad like you claim why not end your life?I do not like the smell of garbage, so I throw it away. Understand the analogy?
>>18216683Verse?
>>18216683Suffering itself isn't moralistic.
>>18216690>>18216728You don’t need to shackle your life to a parasite for 18 years to enjoy sex
>>18219108Antinatalism doesn’t concern the question of ending or maintaining life. It looks at outcomes of being born and simply comes to a conclusion that it ain’t worth it. Nothing else.
>>18217545You never had sex
>>18217255What makes believing that life sucks so much it’s better not to be born libertine? I would imagine actual libertines enjoying life.
>>18217321Everyone is pushing people to have kids. You see it in every government in almost every country. There is a push for procreation and Antinatalism merely gives a moral ground to those who feel that being pressured into parenthood is wrong because they argue not from selfish reasons but from the concern over the hypothetical child’s well being. Does it make sense having a child when you know they will end up going to school and suffering in it?
>>18216690>Considering that whatever child is born was willed to be born, it's not my fault. We don't live in a world where the global population is 1 billion, or 2 billion, or 3 billion. That's the thing – the more there are, the antinatalist current begets importance. >And besides, there really is nothing like being on top of a woman's soft, warm, naked body and wrapping her in your arms and thrusting until there's nothing left in your balls. You can literally feel your balls and asshole contract and your dick pulse as you shoot semen into her silky pussy. The moaning, the encouragement, the explosion, and then... the silence, the rest, the peace. It's a beautiful thing. Of the 8 billion people, how many can be afforded this normality? Even if you are against antinatalism, everything in our world is geared more and more for depopulation. It's obvious why...>Why else are we here?Our parents' vanity & misguided delusions dressed as hope for a better future, disregarding that other billions are thinking the same way – creating a “tragedy of the commons” version on steroids.>According to you, it's just to work and feed other people's babies? Fuck you, that's stupid.“You're under arrest & soon sent to prison. If you resist, you'll be terminated for opposing law enforcement.”>>18216720You know Covid wasn't an accident, right? All countries are poised for population reductions – each in their own way – and the most common forms are 24/7 stress & worries, hastening to an early grave.>>18216728Poorfags like you are a problem. You & your spawn will not advance humanity any more than rich people & connected people (military, financial, academic etc.) realizing humanity reached dozens of ceilings in technology that can't be surpassed. We're at an endpoint of human potential, and you're just wasting resources breeding like mindless animals deemed for slaughter.
>>18219912Still going to fuck women and nut in them. Nothing you say is going to change that.
>>18216744Believe us, we'd want to be rich and afford plentitude just as any other responsible human.Everything & anything – from draconian law enforcement, work harassment/abuse/underpayment, financial access restrictions, and many more – are signalling the same thing: we're too many to afford any more. Even the everlasting immigration topics are just a pressure lever to asymmetrically force people to stop at the intention of mindlessly breeding and just be content with living until the end as is.>>18216760You will be a pauper, and your progenitura of vanity will curse the day they were born.>>18217283Morality doesn't exist in itself, it's not tangible. It's fairy dust, it's made-up.>Not wanting to pop out another goyslave or whatever is fine and dandy. What is this called, if not antinatalism? >>18217995Small planet, few dishes, few roofs, big crowd (+8 billion projected to reach +10 billion by 2050s)...Small planet.>>18219108There's nothing wrong to tell others they'll have to kill chiefs, rulers, bosses, the nobility/aristocrats. >>18219207Look around you. >>18219884Slaves for plantation.
>>18219926Wars & conflicts are planned post-birth abortions. Don't complain if you'll end up in a ditch, concentration camp, or without organs.
>>18219912>>18219931>>18219941
>>18219962In all seriousness though. Your posts are just masturbatory and somewhat hysterical. Are/were you a rationalist? Please remember to take your HRT. >>18219931>What is this called, if not antinatalism?Not wanting to have kids. Anti-natalism is a narrower philosophical position.
>>18219912>umanity reached dozens of ceilings in technology that can't be surpassed.Can you elaborate on this? Why do you believe this?
>irrefUtable
>>18219912I can't believe you wrote that long ass response to a shitpost.
>>18219931>>18219962 is right, you literally replied to every post with a reddit quip instead of a tangible counter-argument and some with curses that sound like a cringe attempt to imitate 19th century literature>your progenitura of vanity will curse the day they were born>you're just wasting resources breeding like mindless animals deemed for slaughterIf you are actually willing to debate this, in short this debate boils down to what exactly you consider good and moral.>Does it make sense having a child when you know they will end up going to school and suffering in it?Some people like getting spanked during sex, they suffer, yet it gives them excitement. When a paramedic arrives at a car accident and finds someone unconscious, they can't get their consent, they impose what they believe to be right on them. So clearly morality is not as simple as a few assertions like "suffering bad" " doing things to people without consent is bad".Far from trying to impose my own system of morality and say it is better, which would be a long debate and no doubt go nowhere on 4chan. I argue antinatalism can be questioned and criticized, it is far from a complete moral system. Antinatalism is kind of like a bystander screeching "WHAT ARE YOU STICKING DOWN HIS THROAT" as the paramedic tries to intubate the patient.So, demonstrate you are are as rational as you claim you are and explain in detail where I am in the wrong here. Without going "u r stoppid, just because, ok?", because there is something to my argument, surely. We can actually move forward a little instead of going around in circles.
