The dust has settled
>>18218158They were only separate during the kingdom and early Republican eras. By the time of Augustus, they had syncretized so much you might as well say they effectively became one religion
>>18218164Then what was the difference before then? They had different Gods and the Romans did not make those statues of their Gods. Even after they understood them in different ways and followed different rituals although they borrowed a lot from eachother. The Romans seemed to understand the Gods as ruling over concepts and forces of nature whereas the Greeks saw them differently. The lemures and manes also were not present in Greek religion
As Rome progressed in time they liked to rotate Gods and cults devoted to them. In the time of St.Augustine Egyptian Gods were all the rage among the pagans IIRC.
>>18218158Mars The Greeks took his bow and gave it to Apollo. They took his brain and gave it to Athena He patiently endured but they did not correct their mistakes in the end, he got his favorite sons to come over and teach the Greeks some manners
>>18218193your obesity and autism demands that somebody read you the lore on the wiki so everything can be boiled down to a reddit postBut the fact of the matter is that the Romans adopted some other people's gods and cross-identified other people's gods as already existing gods. It was a mess. You're going to have to actually read about it if you want an explanation.>The Romans seemed to understand the Gods as ruling over concepts and forces of nature whereas the Greeks saw them differentlyI can barely parse this sentence and it's retarded bullshit and you haven't done any of the homework necessary to even have this impression in the first placeEat a salad and go for a walk todayalso stop posting
>>18218244You're the one posting reddit tier shit acting like the romans didn't have a distinct religion just because they cross identified gods you retarded nigger getting confused by my post
>>18218193Greek and Roman religion varied quite a bit. For instance Zeus was never the main god of any polis (except the places where games in his name were held). Jupiter was the main god of Rome. You also different interpretations of Ares and Mars. Hermes was more of a trickster god than a protector of merchants.Beyond that I believe Rome had different religious holidays and festivals than Greek cities but I’d have to check here again.
>>18218164I don't know about this. Etruscans had religious iconography clearly adapted from the same font.
>>18218217>bringing up Pisstianity in a pagan threadGive me a fucking break you moronic toddler.
>>18218193Romans didnt have statues at all until the Etruscan hegemony (about 700 BC) then they really took to the idea and looted Greece of its statues which they synchronized into their Gods, Overall the biggest difference was that in the Roman religion emperors starting with Augustus were praised during their lifetime and after their death as Gods on par with Jupiter
>>18218789Lol
>>18218158Roman religion was more influenced by celtic religion while greece was more influenced by egyptian and middle east religions.
>>18218926>emperors starting with Augustus were praised during their lifetime and after their death as Gods on par with JupiterDeified Emperors weren't on par with the Gods, the words used for each weren't even the same, "Deus" for Gods that are naturally divine, and "Divus" for those that through apotheosis were elevated to the level of the Gods, but they still aren't Gods, just closer to the Divine than ordinary mortals.
>>18218193The practice of religion and state practice was one major difference which never went away. The Romans maintained official state cults which were mostly their own native ones and it was the responsibility of the state to maintain them, all Roman politics had to be done through religion. Voting, taking office, doing things in office all had to be done with the approval of the divine. The Greeks just didn't do this. Obviously they took it very seriously but it wasn't an integral part of their states and rule in every action. This is also the reason Christians had such a hard time with the Roman state, practicing state ritual was not optional and to do anything with the state you had to go through the motions.Romans also quite despised most mystery cults. As religion was public business it was unacceptable for it not to be shown to the public outside of ritual. Every cult had to be regulated by the Roman state to be considered religio. The Bacchanalia was considered a form of mystery cult and was not under state control, the Roman response to this was to kill as many of them as possible and we soon see laws for their conduct, needing official approval to do anything with more than just a few people and to also be watched over by an official. This doesn't really change either as time went on, even during the empire mystery cults were hardly tolerated. The only one which really got away with it was Mithraism due to it being favoured by soldiers and possibly emperors too.
>>18219514Interesting, the Greeks were much more into mystery cults as we can see with the Elusinian mysteries and Dionysian cults. I know the Romans placed great importance on divination like augury, having to undertake this before making any important decisions, do you know if the Greeks had this too?
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>>18218765Ares was a loathsome god considered not worthy of worship while Mars was extensively venerated. Some Roman deities such as Quirinius had fallen out of favor by the late republic and were no longer worshiped, nor did they have a Greek equivalent.
>>18218158To begin with, Roman religion had what we might consider a founder:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numa_PompiliusIf you want to include the Etruscans:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tageshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VegoiaI don't know of any Greek figure who is credited with being a great systematizer of the sacred traditions, Homer only wrote the mythological background, not ritual. The closest I can think of is Orpheus, but that was a mystery cult as to those of Elysium like Eumolpidae and Kerykes, not general Greek religion.I find this interesting about the Romans because it's the closest thing Europe has to the Vedic Rishis. He was even married to the beautiful nymph Egeria, who was her confidante and counsellor like Rishi Vishwamitra had the apsara Menaka.Btw Once Numa is supposed to have summoned the father of the Gods himself with a powerful ritual to ask him for protection against the terrible storms full of thunders and lightning ravaging the country in that time. Jupiter then answered dismissively, and told him he would need to pay such a gift with lots of heads. Numa brought him a casket full of onion heads, enraging Jupiter, who said what he wanted was from the head of men. So Numa brought him hair. Then Jupiter said he meant head of the living, and Numa brought him heads of fishes. It went on a bit like this, with Numa playing reverse genie on Jupiter until he got fed up and gave him his blessing and protection. And that's why a traditional ritual to ward against storm was a sacrifice of hair, onions and fishes.
>>18221991Interesting post>>18221422His flamen actually still worshipped him they just had no idea what he was but they still practised his tiruals
