What philosophy is this?
>>18218269What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money… Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist… The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general.”(On the Jewish Question, 1844).
>>18218269capitalism
>>18218269Dialectic materialism (marxism)
>>18218271>>18218272These are one-in-the-same
What does Musk mean by "true value" here?The price someone would fetch when sold at a slave auction? Then it's plainly false, what someone is able to produce with their work - does not set the price at such an auction
>>18218269Productivism.> Protestant Work Ethics> Marxism> Capitalism> Utilitarianism > Social Darwinism All subscribe to it.
>>18218269The fortune cookie school of philosophy. No real philosopher would ever make a statement this retaded.
>>18218307He is correct. We determine the value of a thing by its utility. Even aesthetic appreciation is a form of utility as it provides pleasure to the aesthete. So it is the same with human individuals. His only error is that he narrows the scope of value to the production of commodities.
>>18218269Has Musk ever worked a day in his life?
>>18218317He works 100 hours per week, thriving under pressure and has the relentless physical grit.
>>18218269The ecomonic automaton theory of human value
COMMUNISM.
>>18218271IN CAPITALISM, A PERSON'S WORTH IS THEIR CAPITAL, NOT HOW MUCH THEY PRODUCE WITH THEIR WORK.
A person's true diablo rank is only determined by what they are able to accomplish with their gameplay.
WTF, communists were right?
Capitalists work has nothing to do with production, they don't necessarily produce anything in their own words. The majority of this thread would fail econ 101.
>>18218269>richest man in the world says that your value is determined by how much money you havewow i wasn't expecting something like that to happen.
>>18218591Are you sure you know how to read?
>>18218591?HE, AS A CAPITALIST MAGNATE, STATED THAT (You), AS A WAGESLAVE, SHOULD EMBRACE A MARXIAN STATE OF MIND SO THAT YOU CAN PRODUCE MORE, SO THAT HE CAN AUGMENT HIS CAPITAL.
>>18218598>>18218607>no OBVIOUSLY what he's talking about is-haha ok, yeah im sure that if you asked him he'd admit that he became rich simply by owning things and not hard work.
>>18218620YOU ARE A MORON.
>>18218622Has any billionaire ever said anything other than "hard work" when asked how they became rich?
>>18218627READ THE «TWEET» AGAIN, IF YOU KNOW HOW TO READ.
>>18218269But what about the owners of capitals? What are their value? They don't produce anything, although they manage the businesses a little, but they often have hired managers who manage the businesses for them.
>>18218629>hey elon, what did you produce?>i've produced more than anyone else, because i am the richest man in the world! i produced tesla, paypal, spacex, twitter, everything!this is how billionaires think
>>18218269The most horrible thing that America ever managed to create, literally more destructive than the Atom bomb
>>18218635ELONIVS MADE AN AXIOLOGICAL STATEMENT THAT REDUCES A PERSON'S VALUE TO THAT PERSON'S LABOURAL PRODUCTIVITY, WHICH, COMING FROM HIM, BEING A CAPITALIST, IS, AT BEST, HYPOCRITICAL; AT WORST, PERVERSE.
>>18218269If you were able to redistribute all maney evenly to everyone the rich people would just get rich again with a few exceptions. Most people are retards and cannot be rich even if you just give them millions of dollars.
>28 replies>ctrl+f objectivism>0 resultsISHYGDDT
>>18218635Well, he isn't wrong. That's why Elons value is much lower than it could be. He's advancing space travel which may benefit humanity in the future. But really relative to humanity he is reducing thier value. He produced a payment system that made survielance and censorship the norm. Fleeced taxpayers to overproduce electrical vehicles that are neither environmentally friendly nor superior to gasoline vehicles in literally any manor except for stop acceleration. And released satellites that are stream porn to previously pure rurals and will eventually be used for an oppressive automated sky net dystopia. Oh yhea and his brain chips will be implanted against peoples will at some point. So Elin has become rich as shit by being a net pox on humanity.
>>18218718>He's advancing space travelNo, he simply owns the company that has the people doing the actual work.
>>18218725But he walks around there 28 hours a day 8 days a week. Surely they would be nothing without him?
>>18218269Calvinism
>>18218328Lebron "ballhog" jamesWhat up ballhog?
>>18218638Care to elaborate?
>>18218269the wrong onea person true value is given by God
>>18218270>Jews make money and that's...LE BAD you gotta be HUMBLEPeople like you will brag about your wealth and standards of living when comparing yourselves to brown people. Two faced tranny.
>>18218306Notably, Friedrich Nietzsche identifies all of these ideologies with the Anglo.
>>18218269Doesn't matter. All value is based on finite and fickle constraints of speculation; available perception. The true unrealized potential and value of any being, any object, anywhere, at any time, is infinite. We abide narrow and short term appraisals because humanity is narrow and short term in its ability to see or affect/catalyze these potentials at any time. All contrary arguments are obsolete or naive; rudimentary conditioned human response.
>>18218269The M A C H I N E must be feed. We will reach perpetuum mobile. We will become God.
>>18219637>we
>>18219637ok, spergler.
>>18219666You are a fool if you belive you will cheat god.
>>18219690He was right. Evrything he said will happen, happened.
>>18218269>pays someone to play videogames for him so he can brag about the high score he paid forWhat philosophy is this?
>>18218825Pragmatism, a.k.a. the idea that only the use of something is important, is the main driving force behind the corrosion of knowledge, moral values, beauty and on the long term, even strength. It's basically pleasure pod: the philosophy. Why go outside if you can experience pleasure safely in a simulated way? It produces the same feeling anyway, and is therefore more useful.Basically, you can use pragmatism to effectively undermine any higher value, including freedom. People are apparently free when they feel free, so why not simulate that feeling of freedom through positive reinforcement?
>>18218315>We determine the value of a thing by its utility.No, the most valuable items at auction are art pieces, so you are putting aesthetics above utility, the pleasure often can not be exactly named or quantified and they are only generally only so extremely expensive because the person who made them is dead, not because they provide excessive utility, but because they are rare, if it were just the aesthetics that gave it value, a gif of the mona lisa posted here would be just as valuable as the original.
>>18218269puritanism
>>18218718>nor superior to gasoline vehicles in literally any manor except for stop acceleration.Is that the same as regenerative braking because regenerative braking is definitely a pro of EVs versus gasoline?
>>18218269A slave is defined by their work. So this is labor theory of value.
>>18219903What do you mean a pro? It makes the electric vehicle slightly more efficient thats all. You got a vehicle filled with nasty chemicals lithium battery. That has a shelf life. Doesn't do as well in extreme hot or cold. Doesn't do well in disasters. Is heavy as shit because it's a giant battery. Takes way longer to charge than filling a tank of gas. And is connected to a survielance bot net. The last one a small subset of people consider a feature.Tesla has gotten much more money from the government than through it's car sales and in fact other electric manufacturers have out sold them while receiving less gov bucks if I'm not mistaken so kudos to Elon for exploiting those gov bucks (taxes).
>>18219959>It makes the electric vehicle slightly more efficient thats all.It makes it quite a bit more efficient and you could conceivably forgo stopping to charge completely with an adequate network of active regenerative brake charging convoy alerts.
>>18219971>active regenerative brake charging convoy alerts.wtf does that mean? You have to stop all at once to recharge? Sounds like some made up shit. If such a vehicle climbs a hill and descends an equal gradient it will always have consumed far more energy going up than the braking will generate to return to the vehicle. It's a good feature depending on the specific cost benefit analysis but seems best suited for urban stop and go traffic, like electric cars in general.That's if temperature extremes or flood zones dont make it less appealing. They seem to cause a mini ecological disaster whenever they flood.
>>18219978>You have to stop all at once to recharge?No. Its a fleet strategy when a bunch of vehicles form a train and the ones with the least amount charge use their regenerative tech to recharge at the expense of the other other vehicles' momentum.
>>18219997But still at a net energy loss, right?
>>18219997>check it out, I just linked my electric up with an electric big rig at ext 17 and this bad boys gonna pull me all the way to 27. >9.73 cuckcoins have left your wallet>Holy cow that was cool, I love it when my car talks to me.
>>18220001Energy is generated by the brakes, so all the electricity generated by braking is a net gain for the grid as a whole.
>>18220015Through a convoy? You want to be braking during a convoy. You'd basically be robbing power from whatever vehicle was towing, and lose a little energy in the process.I already talked about braking generation in a previous post, clearly you're a simp.
>>18220021>You want to be braking during a convoy.No, I want the regenerative system activated.>You'd basically be robbing power from whatever vehicle was towingYes that is what I said.>use their regenerative tech to recharge at the expense of the other other vehicles' momentum.>lose a little energy in the process.No, energy is generated by the regenerative braking system, so all the electricity generated by braking is a net gain for the grid as a whole.
>>18220046Minor features and innefficiant work arounds. ok.
>>18218328>He works 100 hours per week
>>18220054You wouldn't be saying it was a "minor feature" if they figured out how to regenerate gasoline every time the braking system of an ICE was engaged or the wheels were allowed to spin freely.
>>18220015There would still be a net energy loss due to inefficencies in the system
>>18220070If that were the case, the brakes wouldn't be generating anything in the first place.
>>18220075No; part of the energy is brought back in and some is lostIf you have an moving car with some kinetic energy T and you use reg breaking The energy you will get back after stopping completely will be T'=T-Q Q here being energy dissipated through heat for example; this is a direct consequence of the 2nd law of thermodynamics
>>18220083>The energy you will get backI accept your concession, you get net energy back with a regenerative breaking system.
>>18220087Do you get all the energy that was inputted?
>>18220087I don't think you understand what "net" means
>>18220092You reduce the overall burden placed on the grid by generating energy from the braking system instead of getting it from a charging station.
>>18220098I don't think you understand what generative means.
>>18218269toxic muskulinity
>>18220126Yes, so how much energy are we talking about here? And how good is it for the life efficiency of the battery?Lithium charge cooler, but it still creates some wasted heat in the battery itself as well as whatever lost in the braking energy process, yes?
>>18220067Ok. But the devils in the details. Electric motors take lots of power and dont just work by consuming no energy. So it's a multi faceted approach. That's good. But towing is reducing the efficiency of the towing vehicle drastically. You're being nitpicking by pointing out extra features.
>>18220171>But towing is reducing the efficiency of the towing vehicle drastically.Its much less drastic than a prone tow, but that is why I said fleet and convoy so its not just one vehicle towing another, but a bunch of well charged vehicles transferring some of their charge to undercharged vehicles in the convoy.
>>18220178You fail to understand how transer of energy works the total energy from a town will be lost no matter how many vehicles.Bye thread.
>>18220183You fail to understand what energy generation means and how generating more energy at the source inherently reduces the burden of the energy distribution infrastructure.By your logic, why don't we just burn all the oil field since the energy will eventually be lost anyway?
>>18220183>lostReduced.
Today i meet a vagrant whos soul was Noble and Aristocratic.This vagrant has infinitly more value than musk.
Materialism
>>18218269Communism
>>18218699rational thought, capital and values are more important for objectivists
>>18218269Global Homo with Indian and Jewish characteristics
>>18218269Machevelian Transhumanism.
>>18218269Objectivism, holding creation of value as the highest moral act.
>>18218269There is a lot of truth to this for men. But not for women. A woman is usually "intrinsically valuable", i.e. men give them innate value. Like Gold in pre-modern times (now it does have some practical uses). The woman in pic rel could produce absolutely nothing, and most men would be happy to support a woman like her, provided she was pleasant and provided access to her body.
>>18218272No
The problem with this is that what someone can produce is strongly influenced by the decisions of others
>>18218269Capitalist realism. The law of value distorted and personalized through the fun-house mirror of bourgeois ideology in order to further demoralize the disenfranchised masses.
>>18218269I think this Tweet sums up the disconnect between entrepreneurs and Indian population vs cogs, white Americans."Just show us your code."Notice how angry that sentence makes you. Stop for a moment and really self-examine why that is.The reason this connect to Indians and sends Timmy into a fury is that Indian people are very results oriented. We don't care about the certification. We don't care about the degree. We don't care about validation. We just do the work. Execution is our profession. Excellence is our calling card.Now, this kind of hustle naturally ends up landing us in the roles that are coveted as status symbols. Not because we come from a rich family, but because we can actually deliver. And then, guess what? We keep building.The result: Indians build the institution (Harvard, Microsoft, Washington Medical, Silicon Valley) and whites flock in to try to get the cushy jobs.Fortunately, these two cultures can work in harmony. Every organization, even those on the forefront of their industries, need cogs/drones. There is no shame in it. No, you will never be the visionaries. No, you will never make millions in salary. Those prizes are reserved for those whose code speaks for itself. But you can make a nice salary, go home at 5 o'clock, and keep things running smoothly for the real innovators.We're building the future, with the resources the Anglo stole from us, to benefit America AND the world. Trump's not sending us back. Elon's not sending us back. We've been given a mission by the universe, and we will accomplish it no matter how much it makes rednecks seeth.Just don't get in our way.
>>18218269>autistic, out of touch man posts something autistic and out of touch>OHHH EMMMM GEE GUYS you REALLY NEED to see what this FUCKING RETARDED DUMB IDIOT MORON just TWEETEDplease shut the fuck up
>>18218269It's the philosophy of a cynically flattering story of himself.
>>18220715Women produce babies.
