The child gets brain cancer and Jesus laughs>Hahahaha! That's what you get you little sinner, enjoy Hell!The innocent animal gets attacked by a predator and eaten alive while it screams in terror and Jesus chuckles in amusement>Maybe Eve shouldn't eaten that fruit then, huh? Hahahaha! Suffer!A bus full of Christians crashes and goes off a cliff, everyone is crushed to death in agony while Jesus holds his sides as bursts out laughing>That was part of my plan! Hahahaha!! You weren't even the right denomination. The pain hasn't even begun, enjoy Hell!The serial killer accepts Jesus on his deathbed and Jesus smiles>Welcome to heaven! I can't say the same about all the people you tortured and killed! Hahahaha!!! They can rot in Hell!
>>18218283>Waah bad things happen on Earth!That's the whole point of Heaven existing>Child diesThat's the whole point of Heaven existing>Animals aren't vegetarian like in the garden of eden anymoreThat's the whole point of Heaven existing>Different denominationsEveryone is judged according to their conscience. Having the right denomination - it's Orthodoxy btw - just gives you a better chance of attaining the clean conscience required for salvation.>Muh HellHell is just the final and complete seperation from God. On earth, God's sun shines on both the wicked and the righteous. In the afterlife, it doesn't. When you die and are fully separated from God, the source of everything Good and Beautiful, you get sad and it's excruciating. That's what Hell is. Up to you whether you wanna go there.
>>18218283>Jesus do things according to an atheist that he doesn't really do>somehow the atheist expect others to believe him
>>18218419You just made all that up>>18218874Jesus does all those things
>>18218283You a pizza guy, or a seafood guy? Or is it steak or veggies for you? You got a preference?
>>18218419>Having the right denomination - it's Orthodoxy btwhow do you know this?
>>18220655I starting listened to Orthodox Talks by Priestmonk Kosmas. It explained everything that didn't make sense to me during the years I was non-Orthodox Christian. And when I became a catechumen, I felt God's grace - heavily -and was able to do things I thought were impossible for me.
>>18222232I starting listened to Pentecostal Talks by Pastor Joe Bob. It explained everything that didn't make sense to me during the years I was Orthodox Christian. And when I became a snake handler, I felt God's grace - heavily -and was able to do things I thought were impossible for me.
>>18218283Now do the Religion of Peace
>>18222326>Allah smiles and laughs out loud as the suicide bomber presses the button. "Hahaha!! Did you see him blow himself to bits Muhammad? I predestined that to happen. Too bad he was a Shiite and not a Sunni, he can enjoy the fires of eternal Hell!"
>>18218283Except none of this is true and in reality your theoretical serial killer has hardened his heart towards god and against his fellow man . He has sinned against the holy spirit which is an unforgivable sin. A person who commits such acts of evil is not able to genuinely accept Jesus Christ as their lord and saviour. Simply saying " I accept Jesus Christ as my lord and saviour " literally means nothing if you don't actually mean what you are saying.Entry to heaven is not denomination based , it is through Christ and Christ alone.
>>18218419>Orthodoxy Ah, so that's why you don't care what the Bible says. Enjoy Hell. A wizard with a beard can't save you. :)
>>18222232>I felt God's graceYeah, that's a strong delusion given unto you because you hardened your heart against the truth and permanently rejected Christ. I have zero pity for you LVRPtards.
>>18223466Wrong. You don't understand your own religion.Paul said confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord and you will be saved.The thief on the cross was saved in his final moments just like the serial killer.
>>18223623T. pearls + swine.
>>18224292Romans 10:9-10 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."It doesn't matter what you say, but what you believe. "For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness". You can say a thing and actually mean the opposite of that thing. For example I could say "You pretty", but in my heart i'm thinking "You're ugly, but i'll just say you're pretty even if i dont mean it.". God knows and cares about what you're really thinking, not what you say. Obviously you should make a confession with your mouth, but that doesn't save you, The Lord Jesus Christ saves you. For example if you say, "I trust in the blood atonement you made on the cross for me, Lord Jesus Christ, but in your heart you think "Well I don't think what Jesus did is enough to save me, I have to do works for my own salvation and earn the right to be saved". You're not trusting in Jesus Christ, you're not accepting salvation. In that case you are putting your trust in something completely different, and denying the gift of salvation.Romans 3:24-25: "Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;"
Proof that the Bible is the Word of God:fcbaptist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Bible-proof.pdftruthischrist.com/seven/1 Cor 15:3-4: “For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” How to know you're saved youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntc1 John 5:7: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."Rom 3:23: “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”Jesus Christ is God who has come in the flesh from heaven. He died as a sinless sacrifice for the sins of the whole world to save you from eternal hell, the punishment for your sin. He was buried, then resurrected and then ascended to heaven. John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 10:28: "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." Rom 10:9: “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."God wants to forgive you, but you have a choice: Do you choose the righteousness of God by receiving Christ? Your own righteousness can NEVER justify you or keep you saved because of your sin. Rom 5:9: “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” Salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, in His finished blood atonement. The gift of salvation can't be earned. Confess The Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in prayer, that you trust in Him and believe He atoned for your sins on the cross.Eph. 2:8-9: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”
>>18223466https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeIjxbqC12oIn this age of grace, only when your flesh dies is the moment where you are no longer able to receive the gift of salvation. When you are under the law and not under grace, there are unforgivable sins, like in the old testament (pre-crucifixion), and in the great tribulation where saints are under the law again, and works are required for salvation (Not taking the mark of the beast etc.)Salvation is a gift, not something we deserve, because we are saved by grace (Eph. 2:8-9).When you get saved, something changes in you:Galatians 5:22-23“But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.”And because of these changes, you know that God saved you. After you are saved, you are no longer an enemy of God, and nothing in the present or in the future can separate you from His love:Romans 8:38-39 "For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord."I recommend reading this: https://download.timefortruth.co.uk/docs/Christian_Soldiers_Battle_Notes.pdfEspecially the chapters like "Errors of the Post-Tribulation Rapture" and "Matthew 24".
>>18224686And I'm not saying that there's a checklist that shows you which changes take place, but when you get saved you no longer feel the same way about sinful things. For example you have a strong desire to right, and not wrong. The flesh doesn't go away, but you now have a spiritual nature as well as a fleshly nature, but the flesh and the fleshly nature is cut off from the spirit and soul, thats why during the judgement seat of Christ you're not judged for sins judged on the cross, but your service.Colossians 2:11-14"In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;"Romans 7:17-25"Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin."
>>18218283The whole world rests under condemnation, wrath, curse. If it didn't then it would mean that everything is fine and there isn't any problem, that's why life here is suffering, because the state of this world is meant to show us that we are not on good terms with God and that judgement is coming. If God maintained everything and made sure everything around is pretty, innocent and harmless, we wouldn't have any idea of the impending doom that is coming upon this kingdom of darkness.Man is born a lost sinner, an enemy of God.With the fall of man God promised a Redeemer and the plan of salvation.This prophecy (Genesis 3:15) God fulfilled about 4,000 years later at Calvary.God took the fig leaves and gave Adam and Eve coats of skins.This is a picture of the blood redemption that is required to ransom a sinner.John 6:35-37 "And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst. But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not. All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out."Do you want to come to Jesus, or do you want to casted out? It's not unfair for you, because you never deserved to be saved from the consequences of your own iniquity. God has given you a decision to make. Do you want the gift of salvation given freely to you, or will you reject it?
>>18224765The fall of man is described very early in Genesis."Because of Adam's sin, all of mankind lost fellowship with God, received a sinful nature, and began to do evil." (Romans 5:12)http://www.tjcnavs.com/uploads/3/2/6/9/3269493/150_bible_questions_answered.pdfSatan is not given free reign on earth right now, that will happen in the great tribulation where earth basically becomes hell, when God is pouring His wrath on the earth and getting ready to destroy His enemies and then judge the dead afterwards.
>>18224765Or if the answer you're asking is, "Why didn't God just immediately destroy humans, why even allow them to rebel and allow the kingdom of darkness to become a thing?". It's because God is very longsuffering and merciful, and wants to give His creation an opportunity to repent and be friends with Him again instead of destroying them.
>>18224780And even better than friends, children: Ephesians 1:5“Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,”Gal. 4:5 - "To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons."Gal. 4:7 - "Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ."John 1:12. “But as many as received him, to them gave he power to becomethe sons of God, even to them that believe on his name.”You are saved the moment you quit trusting your own righteousness to get you to Heaven, and start trusting the righteousness of Jesus Christ. For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. (2 Cor 5v21)So are you saved? - And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. (Acts 16v31) If you die without Him… He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (John 3v18) He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. (John 3v36) The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. (Ps 9v17) >>18224670
>>18224670>>18224686>>18224699>>18224762None of that stupid shit is real and no one is reading your walls of schizo text. I come here once every few months and I notice there's always one absolutely insane schizo rambler that's posts the same thing in every thread 24/7.
>>18224911>None of that stupid shit is realDo you have any proof? The burden of proof is on you since there's mountains of evidence against you.
>>18218283some of you have never read the bible and when you expound on it its embarrassing
>>18222232>and was able to do things I thought were impossible for me.Explain more? I'm looking into Orthodoxy and feel it is the truth
>>18226144The things in the Bible. Like actually going to your "brother" and asking forgiveness, confessing sins to each other, not walking on past someone in need, confessing the faith, telling your brother if he has wronged you in the hopes of reconciling, etc. And for me also just connecting with others - both in regular life and in church - opening up, not being secretive. This was something I had struggled with my whole life.And the biggest epiphany was discovering most of my problems came from a pride that causes an inferiority complex. I had it 2 years after listening to link related. Then a brief week or two where I got a and taste of what life could be without it, but after it was still oppressively there until I finally joined the Church/became a cathecumen.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9muwaq-Nabg
