Why did the fancy little faggots at Jamestown think they could survive on their own when they literally had no useful skills?
That's a bad ratio.
They were elizabethan BVLLS The sons of francis drake and walter raleigh
>>1821837185% of them died from starvation in fucking New England lmao
>>18218375Jamestown is in Virginia (which is even more hospitable to life than New England, making it even worse)
Kek so these are the rich faggots who tell others to pull themselves up by their bootstrap
There were a lot of pants-on-head-retarded colonial ventures up until the 19th century where some unprepared and idealist Europeans just decided to set up their colony somewhere and either abandoned it shortly or fucking died.
>>18218357Hello saaaaarrrr
so Jamestown was more of a Burning Man situation
>>18218357Because they thought they were going to find metal-rich mountains to mine and literal pots of gold just sitting around based on what they heard through the grapevine about Spanish colonialism. Nobody had a fucking clue what the North American continent actually entailedJamestown was also supposed to be a launchpad for raiding the Spanish treasure fleet, not a self-sustaining colony on its own. Even by the time of the American Revolution Virginia wasn't going about their business with a self-sustaining economy in mind>>18218371Also thisMaking your name in the New World through a one-off side quest was the easiest way to jump into the upper classes of nobility and possibly getting a chance to see Queen Liz's ankles
>>18218357White privilege
>>18218559>Because they thought they were going to find metal-rich mountains to mine and literal pots of gold just sitting around based on what they heard through the grapevine about Spanish colonialism.Indeed, the gentlemen colonists treated it as a kinda campout, where they'd "work" by strolling around the woods looking for gold and occasionally shooting a deer, while somebody else did all the work of setting up and maintaining the colony (and taking care of the gentlemen when they returned from their strolls).
>>18218559>side questAs a lifelong video game fan, I am sick and tired of people using video game terminology to refer to the real word. It's childish.
>>18218600You're pathetically oversimplifying what was going on during Jamestown's earliest years like a retard. This boards quality of posts is already low enough with all the e-religiontards and /pol/trannys without you contributing to its decline further m8As I said, the English gents who could a) afford to sail across the Atlantic to begin with, b) sought to rise in social standing by doing so, and c) did so under the false premises of what they heard coming out of Spain, sailed for the New World *because* they were English gentlemen. Even into the mid-18th century gentlemen of standing like William Byrd II were looking at the New World as their means to a leg-up in English society proper. John Smith's whole stature skyrocketed overnight after he made it back to England and published the journals in which he detailed sailing as far up the James River as Richmond with Christopher Newport. In addition to Spanish gold and a way to get at the treasure fleet, these men were looking for that ever-sought-after magical route straight to the East Indies. Jamestown, and Virginia as a whole, was not founded on being a "new society" the way Winthrop's Mass. was in the 1630's (and even the Plymouth venture was supposed to have landed just north of Jamestown, not Cape Cod) - it was a collection of privateering ventures by individuals who banded together to pool the funds necessary to pull the whole thing off. Even when Jamestown did finally start importing skilled tradesmen like glass blowers to make use of the lands natural resources, they sent Poles and other continental Europeans whose labor could be "purchased" at the expense of their traveling fees. Indentured servitude before 1619, and even after because slavery didn't immediately kick off, was literally people offering their labor so that someone else would front the cost of their spot on a ship. Gentlemen didn't "work" - they ventured. >>18218649>a lifelong video game fan>it's childishThe fucking irony lmao
>>18218792This anon actually knows shit about colonial history.The gentlemen adventuring to america in the 1600s were the same types who would have been doing it in ireland in the 1500s and 1400s or raiding france in the 1300s. lower sons of gentry and well off yeomen types looking to rise in status.
>>18218867Based The rise in "spoonfeed me" midwittery thanks to the average internet users dwindling (basically non-existent) attention spans through social media has been an unmitigated disaster for this board. Y'all want to point the finger at the e-christlarpers and /pol/trannys that call each other jeets all day but how many of you actually have the attention spans necessary to read a fucking book? Even some normie-tier pop history book? I remember when this board had actual, quality-posting autists sperging out at each other over their niche knowledge on any range of topics. We used to make memes on this board ffs. Now someone like OP makes a low effort thread about Jamestown and y'all act like you don't even know the bullshit story about John Smith (the wrong John btw) sucking on Pocahontas's delicious little toes (only real niggas will catch the reference there as well). Anyways I'll be back to qualitypost about Chadstown later
>>18218905Context post - keep in mind that the entire eastern coast of North America was mapped out within a few years of Jamestown. The dream of a Northwest Passage route was dead. Samuel de Champlain first came to Canada (New France) in 1603 for an exploratory voyage up the St. Lawrence River, but his significant colonial work began in 1604 in Acadia (now Nova Scotia) and then with the founding of Quebec City in 1608, marking the start of lasting French settlement. Henry Hudson first sounded the Hudson around Manhattan island in September 1609 when his ship, the Half Moon, sailed into New York Harbor and up the Hudson, claiming the area for the Dutch East India Company while searching for a passage to Asia, though he wasn't the first European to see the area, just the first to explore it in detail and claim it for a European power.Hudson also then discovered Hudson Bay on August 3, 1610, during his fourth and final voyage. He entered the bay through the strait that would later be named after him, believing he had found the Northwest Passage to Asia. He was mutinied during this voyage and left in a boat with his son in the Bay while his crew sailed back to Europe. Likewise, Hernando de Soto had long since been up the Mississippi River. In 1541, he documented its existence during his expedition through the southeastern U.S. Later, French explorers Jacques Marquette and Louis Jolliet explored and mapped significant portions of the upper river in 1673, contributing greatly to European knowledge about the interior of the continent.
https://encyclopediavirginia.org/entries/sea-venture/In 1609 the flagship of a fleet to Jamestown wrecked on Bermuda, which had a reputation as a haunted island of fierce cannibals. Instead it proved to be an uninhabited paradise and the survivors feasted while their comrades at Jamestown starved and in some cases resorted to cannibalism to survive. They built two small ships from the wreckage and made it to Jamestown, as their miraculous rescue became the talk of London. The Tempest, Shakespeare’s last great play, was inspired by this tale of a shipwreck on a magical island.
>>18218357The goal was to mug enough natives until they found one who would point them to the giant gold mine, whereupon they would take the leader hostage and force all the brown people to mine gold until they died. Plan A failed and they died in the hundreds trying to execute it, so they started bringing slaves and indentured servants to till the soil instead. Basically, they were retarded.>>18219228>the entire eastern coast of North America was mapped out within a few years of JamestownThe Spanish had already mapped out most of the eastern coast of North America before Jamestown, even the English had most of it. Jamestown was meant to explore the inland
>>18218792>expecting a doctoral thesis on a Tibetan finger painting boardWhat I wrote was completely accurate, your gentlemen were useless parasites.
>>18218357The idea was to bully locals into providing tribute, and this worked to a degree afterwards, but they ran into a powerful native confederation that they couldn't push around.That or to get food for Euro trade goods but local food supplies were low and natives were eating their own food not selling it; had the bad fortune to arrive during a drought.
>>18219312Are you illiterate or just retarded? Jamestown wasn't about "tHe InLaNd", they were still searching for a Northwest Passage. When Smith and Newport got to the Falls of the James they were still convinced that surely, surely they must be just a short portage away from finding the Pacific on the other side. >Basically, they were retarded.Takes a retard to know one.>>18219814>post some retarded >get called out>uh... uh... I wasn't really trying Pathetic>completely accuratelol, lmao evenThis board is worse than fucking reddit istg
>mfw the Susan Constant was basically on loan to Newport when he sailed with Smith and co. and was never sent back across the Atlantic again
>>18218357Malaria was a big killer. I have been to Jamestown they bassically decided to live in a brakish swamp. They eventually realized its better to settle inland.
>>18218551Yeah there was a riot where they chimped out and burned parts of the town down.
