>see map of New Spain>check men, resources, logistics of Spain in those times>*makes no sense*>'La frontera norte de la Nueva España' by Peter Gerhard>max. extension of New Spain in 1800, the red line
>>18221062Map autism youtube channels are your best bet but they are all trans doe
they didn't really control centroamerica eithera lot of the yucatan was mayan clay late into the 1800s
>>18221108or even 1930s when Mayan insureection endedAsspain empire had to be most meme one in world history
>>18221108Damn. I really need to see a realistic map of the Spanish empire to see how different is from the wiki clusterfuck version.
>>18221133I found this for south america
>>18221062Now be honest and do the same thing with the other empires. Like the english in India, Africa or Australia...
Borders probably didn’t really “exist” in the way we know them until like the 1890s.
>>18221219The US-Mexican border didn't even exist in any official way prior to the 1970s. It was basically a loose patchwork of barbed wire fences and fenceposts marking a rough boundary. People used to just walk across in both directions.
>>18221139Source?
>>18221206Anon if I knew how the borders really were, I would do it. Sadly I dont know, I discovered the book from OP greentext by accident.
>>18221219>>18221391At least USA can drop its army in a moment, unlike Spain and Mexico back then.
>>18221097It would be cool to have images, actual maps too.
>>18221108>>18221119Source?
>>18221583your mom hairy ass
>>18221219As late as WW1 any European man could freely travel from one country to another without even being checked for a passport
>>18221108Jesus what a clusterfuckNo wonder the Maya have never liked Spain or Mexico
>>18221062These maps were more about territorial claims by their respective powers, it had nothing to do with how much control these governments actually had over the areas. Spain/Mexico never had much control over those northern territories since they were full of hostile Indians. That's why, when the Mexican government officially lost it to the USA, they still had to fight their way through all the Indian tribes. Most colonial powers just had control over coasts, rivers, forts, and cities. The rest of the claimed area was pretty much wild.Same goes for Louisiana on this same map, btw. That's why it was sold to the USA, they had little effective control over most of that territory so selling it to the USA just made sense. If the USA had decided to invade it - which they obviously inevitably would - the French couldn't do shit about it anyway. I didn't get why they would sell all that land for so cheap as a kid, but obviously with this context, it makes more sense.
Fuck the spanish empire lmao
>>18221870The thing is, with ancient empires and civilizations you get their actual extension, Idk why the same is not done for modern ones.>be Mexico>"own" north desertic shithole>waste men and money defending it against USA despite the locals hate you and want to kill you and despite having nothing of value there>lose it anyway, the locals hunt you until your new borderI swear, I will never get how people want to lose their lifes in this shit. Big countried never worked, aren't working and will never work.Humans evolved to be in max. 150 groups in close proximity, not in large clusterfucks like Mexico, USA, Russia, China, Indonesia, India, etc.
>>18221062You could say Canada doesn't control some of those northern islands or Brazil doesn't control the whole jungle but we still show that on a map.
>>18222679Read >>18222400 >>18221578
>>18222400Humans are naturally tribal predators, adapted and prefering groups of not too many people, but not alone. It's highly stressful for them to be in much higher numbers grouped together without space to freely move around and breathe, like if they were cattle or prey.I guess that is why overpopulated countries are such shitholes.
>>18223072If only they did massive battle royales inside of those shitholes and never leave them. The world would be a better place.
>>18221097Did Tigerstar troon out?
>>18223527Still just gay i'm pretty sure
>>18222400Because with Ancient Empires and Civilizations you can't really guess what territory did they consider legally "theirs" or was recognized as such by other people, as borders weren't really enforceable, so maps are more often based on territorial control based on the surviving archeological and literally record.
>>18223527Hes still really gay and he has a husband now
>>18224104History, specially modern one, is so fake, gay and lame.
>>18221219Before the invention of passports in the early XX century, formal borders were just customs houses
