>Hey let's stop those with consolidated wealth from abusing the worker!>How?>We'll consolidate all the wealth within the state!Are communists really this stupid?
Yes. After that you will find out that, although the businessman seems immoral, he still has to abide by the market. If he doesn't sell, he won't survive. The government can just demand more of your paycheck, and then they blame the greedy capitalists when their system falls apart because they rape incentives. Any objective bystander can see that you can say no to the businessman's product, but you cannot say no to the politician robbing you of the money you spent your day working to get. Who is the real greedy one here?
>>18222635Imagine being this much of a brainlet>Don't let a king rule you! :D>OK, so we vote for rulers with term limits and a constitution. :]>NO, THAT'S THE SAME THING REEEEE >:[The whole point is accountability and who it serves.Capitalist consolidation = private power, unaccountable, exists to hoard.State consolidation under socialism = (theoretically) public ownership, accountable to the collective, meant to dismantle class hierarchy itself.It's not about having a big pile, it's about who CONTROLS the big pile and for WHAT.Seething because you can't grasp the difference between a tool and its user.
>>18222703Individual rights are not negotiable simply because you are outnumbered, mr mob lord.
>>18222635Modern philosophies are less developed system of ssystems that are trying to replace older, and more deeply refined systems. In most cases, like any mutation, they are conplete shit, and bad for the host. It's very rare that a mutation is actually better than the existing code.
Communism is too ideological and relies on faulty assumptions about economy, history and people in general.
>>18222703And how are your voted upon leaders going to not abuse the absolute power you give them?>muh electionsYour leader just canceled elections now what?
>>18222749> And how are your voted upon leaders going to not abuse the absolute power you give them?Because they are communists and therefore can be trusted to have proles interests in heart.
Quick question OP, how much of Marx have you read?
>>18222635You're damned if you do and damned if you don't In the Art of War there is a saying that goes:"Governing a large country is like frying a small fish, you can ruin it with too much poking"
>>18222635People just need to accept that humans will always assort into some kind of hierarchy. The concept of some collectivist Star Trek utopia belongs in science-fiction.
>>18222694>He still has to abide by the market.>Be businessman who makes GPUs>Market for videogame graphics exist, thrive>Market for AI slop suddenly surges>Businessman closes down all GPU operations to supply AI slop>Videogame market still exists, but is ignored and now the market itself competes for supply.This is the same as two babies crying, the loudest will get the food and attention. This is absolutely not moral and all, the outcome is based on emotional conditioning, and absolutely zero reason.All of capitalism is based on emotional conditioning. Capitalism will always be as flawed as the most incompetent person for that reason.
>>18223092Hey retard if demand for a product exists then someone will jump at the opportunity to supply that demand. Just because some GPU company is selling shit for AI doesn't mean another company won't gladly take their place to supply a multi billion dollar industry.
>>18222635Jewish Marxism and Russian Bolshevism are two different ideologies. States aren't even supposed to exist in Marxism
>>18223092Maybe a shortage of gaming hardware will force developers to write cleaner more efficient code that will make games work better on older hardware
>>18223214Then bolshevism until the world is conquered then switch to marxism
>>18222635hey maybe a handful of companies shouldn't own all of the land in ameri->STFU LEFTARD YOU WANT PEOPLE TO STARVE AND ALSO TRANNIES OR SOMETHING
>>18223300So how exactly do you propose we fix that anon? Think carefully as to not propose something that will backfire immensely.
>>18223303Get rid of the jews.
>>18223300How do you determine f someone is the legitimate owner of something?
>>18223398Easy.Jew=ownerGoy=owns nothing (is happy)
>>18223405You have no fucking arguments at all.
>>18223113If the resource is already scarce, competition over the resource will take place. Here what competes is the demand of two sectors for a single product. The AI market outvalues the graphics market for the same resource. It becomes anticapitalistic to supply for the graphics market, simply because the other market is more valuable. You would be selling at a loss, out of goodwill, to gamers.Capitalism prides itself in natural behavior, it claims it makes things more efficient. What it really does is it takes the matter of limited resources to a competition level, where the strongest gets the shit, the loser gets nothing and eventually dies starved.
>>18223088Communism was in fact extremely hierarchical although it pretended not to be.
If you retarded tubs of lard have finally figured out, against your own will and by accident, that the USSR didn't actually pursue or develop Communism, maybe it's time to fat yourselves into a state of mind where you can stop saying that Communism means what the USSR did
>>18223426he gave you the only argument you need. you're just jewish.
>>18224026>unironic NOT REAL COMMUNISMCommiekeks never change
>>18222635Communist leaders are malicious tyrants. Communist followers are useful idiots
>>18222771>Urrrrr AKSHUALLY you need to read Marx to understand communism!Or, you know, you could just look at North Korea
>>18223088Even Star Trek had hierarchy
>>18224027poltranny
>>18222635yes and insane because they still fall for it
And the state is supposed to be owned by the workers…
>>18224027True dude, saves me so much from useless thinking
I think you guys are too bias to even north koreaNow look at this picture and answer me what exactly it is that us wrong with it
