Why do people reject duty and embrace hedonism? Serious question.
why are they so delicious, another question
>>18222854Because duty to a country/company/society/family that hate you and provide no value besides draining your money and energy until you ungraciously expire is retarded
>>18222857I recently converted to the strawberry pop tart after getting tired of cookies and cream. It is very refreshing. I can only take so much cream before it gets to be too much
Yes goy, I mean, guy, do you duty for us! Forward march!!!
>>18222865Duty towards god.
>>18222884Yes goyim, God! Die for you God! You must fight against Amalek! God commands it! DEATH TO AMALEK!!!!
>>18222858But muh hecking social contract though
>>18222854Because it’s easier now to be a hedonist than live up to a sense of duty. Also, society isn’t giving what it should for fulfilling your duty anymore.
>>18222854It's easier to go downhill than up. Only when you're in a fetid swamp in the valley do you realize that it may be better to hike to the heights, as tough as it may be to get there
Hedonism is fun
>>18222898I think this is the only interesting take in this thread.
>>18222908No its very stupidA fetid swamp is inherently bad for humans, what is inherently bad about hedonism?
>>18222854Hedonism is a natural state of a human. It is how God made us. Pleasure is good and that's God intended you to do. Suffering is bad and that's God intended you to not do. Anyone who denies the truth of hedonism wants you to suffer and probably a sadistic psychopath.
>>18222854Good questionRead The Filename
>>18222854Raised in a completely different environment. I was raised playing with pet chickens and birds, bullied out of peer groups, corraled by parents, embraced curiosity and science since that's what's left. I became an empathetic person who sees above the human needs and wants to be part of a greater thing like the biosphere, so my morality is completely based in avoiding harm and preserving towards a perfectionist degree what remains.A LOT of people are raised in neglect, given bare minimum attention, teased and pushed by parents or outright abused, these people become aggresive quickly, they hit their way to a position in a peer group, they aim for hedonism because sensory needs are what they have lacked the most. That's how you end up with a pyramid of golems sustaining only absolute assholes.At the end of the day, tribalism is the natural state of men, no amount of civilization will change that, and any well intentioned system will always fail unless its organization is designed in a tribalist way from its conception. Aristocratic philosopher king concept was right, and its only flaw is the finity of the king.
if your duty is dumb, boring, pointless, meaningless and no one cares about it after a few years you quickly begin to see the appeal of drinking yourself stupid and gooning until your cock hurts etc.
>>18222884Doesn't exist.
>>18222854Because "hedonism" is natural (every animal does what feels good) and "duty" is man made brainwashing.
>>18222942Go take up fent and get back to us. At the end of it, hedonism is just escalating dopamine seeking behavior because the old ones won't do
>>18223370>has to use dangerous outlier examples to continue his argumentI accept your concession on this matter
>>18222854>implying duty and hedonism are the only two optionsMost people just trying to live without being crushed by a system that gives them no real stake or meaning. Duty often means unpaid overtime for a CEO's third yacht. Hedonism is often just basic self-care and enjoying the little time you aren't selling to survive.
>>18223376Disingenuous non argument
>>18223376>drug addicts are an "outlier"
>>18223378>self-care
>>18223383Fentanyl is a deadly drug, its a very extreme outlierUse alcoholics or other safe drug users as an example instead to make an argument (Do you have one?)
Duty to what? To who? Society is run by billionaires for their own benefit, people like me are treated like slaves. I feel loyalty only toward my family and friends, people who have supported me and asked nothing in return, for no other reason than love. I owe nothing to a society run by corrupt degenerates. When criminals rule over you, stealing from the state is a moral imperative.
>>18222884You mean the Jew god, who's son was a Jew and proclaimed by Jews, and whose followers to this day worship a Jewish scripture?
>>18223387>Fentanyl is a deadly drugNo, it's a potent drug. It's also extremely useful in valid medical dosages and contexts. Used properly there's nothing dangerous about fentanyl. The issue is that it is trivially easy to make, so the opioid black market is flooded with the stuff. A low level pusher needs to only lay hands on a liter of fentanyl to make more money than he would with several hundred kilos of weed. A liter of fent can keep literally 10,000 junkies high off their asses for months. The dosage is that low for it, because of its extreme potency. And the pushers aren't using precise instruments to measure dosage, and are deliberately overdosing their users. When the margin for error on a drug dealer's scale can result in double the safe dosage of an adult man it's not a wonder people are ODing left and right on the stuff.
>>18222854Feeling good feels good
>>18222854Serious answer: Modern economics and culture enables a hedonistic consumerist lifestyle with zero accountability. When the bubble collapses, people will relearn very quickly the values of personal responsibility, planning ahead, and producing more than you consume.
>>18223591I'll be dead before it collapses so idgaf
>>18223370>At the end of it, hedonism is just escalating dopamine seeking behavior because the old ones won't doThat's unskilled hedonism. A competent hedonist will minmax his long-term pleasure by avoiding pain and dopamine burnout.
>>18223668Then we're just entering the realm of epicureanism
>>18223604You'll be dead WHEN it collapses, retard
>>18223689I will never care about the collapse or however the white race goes extinct because I will be dead when those things occur. The boomers are right in this respect, if something bad is going to happen but I will be dead before it does then it literally isn't my problem.
>>18222854Why do people reject their duty toward hedonism and embrace the moral degeneracy of self-betrayal? Why don't they realize that they're sinning against that self and that it's unethical to not minimize one's suffering and maximize one's pleasure?
>>18222854Like everything else in life, there has to be a reward for effort for people to enact something, duty in itself doesn't grant that.
>>18223768Duty is it's own reward.
>>18222854Because "duty" is just a spook that people made up so that they can exploit you.
