Byzantium wasn't Rome because it had a different vibe and aesthetic.
>inb4 David statueThat statue is not from ancient Rome but it has the Roman vibe, it's all about that humanism, we wuz humanz n shiet.Meanwhile Byzantium is Oriental Jesus schizoposting.
roman republic is the only rome
>>18223509that's basically what Spengler said.
>>18223589Did he say the Byzantines were western/faustian?
>>18223509weakest argument to date, rome began as a bunch of tribes, then as a city state, it had etruscan influences, later greek influences, it was a monarchy and later a republic, it became a regional power, then went from a republican oligarchic system to a permanent dictatorship under the principate, then it became a centralized empire with predominantly greek and eastern influences, got divided, was instrumental in the early feudal system. At what point that "vibe and aesthetic" started and ended according to you?
>>18223509If the Hellenistic empire was more unified with the Mediterranean after Alexander's death and focused on law rather than hedonism, would it not look exactly like Byzantium?
>>18223509The aesthetic on the left wasn't even real, in reality all those statues and temples would have been painted in bright colors. muh austere pure white marble was literally never a thing in antiquity
>>18223509left is an 18th century neoclassicist interpretation of rome
>>18223618>what point that "vibe and aesthetic" started and ended according to you?Started with Romulus and was slowly ending throughout late antiquity. It ended for good with Romulus Augustulus
>>18223642Still a different aesthetic than Byzantium.Btw I don't know why leftists use the colored statues to "deconstruct whiteness" when they still look white
>>18223602Magian. The essence of Magian aesthetics are webs, mosaics, and algebra. The heartland of the Magian world was Syria and at its height the magian world stretched from Spain to Iran and Arabia to the Balkans.
>>18223602Byzantians are magian, that's why ottomans just added some minarets to Hagia Sofia and rolled with it.
>>18223741Fun fact how spics are a weird mix of faustian, magian and mesoamerican... An infinite all cosuming cavern? A flying spinning cavern?
>>18223754the Spanish upper class in south American countries is Faustian but the natives... not so much.
>>182235572pbp
>>18223509Byzantine aesthetic is just late Roman aesthetic. You can find similar styles during the late Imperial period. Picrel was during the WREIn fact as time went on, Byzantine style became more base and degenerative compared to the high culture of the late Roman period
>>18223509Das rite, when the Byzantines got Rome this was a GREEK conquest
>>18223509Byzasissies werent Romans because the Romans wouldnt have lost to Turds.
>>18224161I honestly love the art of Late Antiquity. It's so kino. If I had to pick an architectural design for a city I would base it off of them.
It really wasn't that aesthetically different at all; Constantinople was very much a Roman city at a glance. As for the "vibe" or atmosphere you would feel in it, I'd say you could fairly notice a shift over time, sure. If the Byzantines were Romans, they were certainly a unique, Orientalized branch of Roman culture. Still connected with Europe, but intimately tied to the East.
They were basically greo-semites (Jews/Armenians/Syrians). They're more comparable to the short lived splinter empire that Zenobia loaded over. "Roman" in the same way that Americans are "British".
>>18224418Was Holy Rome then the Gallic Empire in this analogy?
>>18223758They're basically like the dravidians or native Indonesians, useless slave cattle were any noteworthy person is a european or middle eastern migrant.
>>18224421Yes
>>18223509>Byzantium wasn't Rome becausethey have been different cities with different names.
Are you fuckers autistic or some shit? Do you really expect real life cultures to behave like some video game where every civilization kept one unchanging aesthetic throughout their entire existence? Reminds me of the retards who keep making threads about how le weird and non-east asian-looking bronze age chinese art looks and how those people must have surely moved to mexico or some shit instead of just taking the rational conclusion that their art slowly developed into the style we now associate with east asia today over the literal thousands of years between them and the major dynasties
>>18224519DoTW filtered you.
>>18223557Roman Kingdom is real Rome, baka
>>18223509Byzantine wasn't rome because it didn't include rome and was antagonistic toward rome; and after the heraclian dynasty roughly, you'd nary find a single latin speaker in any of their territory, the HRE is more in line with what the natural conclusion of the western empire would become and I'm not gonna spend another minute explaining this here
>>18224519kek
>>18223509>The Dominate Era Wasnt Rome Becauseshut the fuck up you illiterate clown
>>18224696Spengler was a childish autistic retard when it came to that and so are you
>>18223754The conquistadors were pure Faustian to Spengler, the Aztec civilization died quickly, the indians remaining then became "fellah" and would only play a supporting role to the Spaniards and criollos who were Faustian and driving history
>>18224775truke
>>18223509>it had a different vibe
>>18223741That's really fucking stupid.
>>18223758The sword of Damocles is over every civilization. It's just funny that Spengler uses the word Faustian to hang it over Europe only.
