Would the world be a better place if Germany had won WW1?
>>18223537Impossible to tellFor all we know, german-dominated europe might have gone full zog just like america did postwar, and we'd be exactly where we are today.(Eastern europe would probably be better off without communism though)
>>18223537The world would be a better place if Germany didn't exist.
>>18223545The world won't even notice when your nation eventually goes extinct, Polack
>>18223558Don't jump to conclusions here anonAnon might also be french or, may jesus forgive me for uttering this word, russian.
You still had to pay taxes, work and grind. Its the same shit.
>>18223537>Would the world be a better placeOnly if they'd won the second world war.
>>18223537Yes>No WW2>no nazi retards commiting to kill jews>jews cant blame anyone of anything>theyre kept at bay and treated as alien as they are>no modern political trash storm>powers balanced out because no one got that badly obliterated>communism kept at bay by imperial colonial powers instead of a big cold war between 2 superpowers>America does not become as powerful post-WW2 because this power balance>britain likely still holding Canada and Australia>Rhodesia allowed to exist>minor nations resolve their small scale conflicts without worrying of triggering a global war>Japan is kept at bay, European powers might intervene in the Sino-Japanese war because of sheer Japanese brutality, ironically Japan probably gets to still hold Formosa and maybe, maybe Korea>germans are (or atleast, were) just better than americans>Ottomans probably still collapse, but Israel never created, araps get to solve their stuff without France or England screwing things up
>>18223558Are you actually German or are you one of those doctors and engineers imported from Nigeria? You can't really tell these days.
>>18223568All of europe would at best be a decently functional dictatorship like china and at worst a hellhole like russia.
I said kept at bay three times.
>>18223537If it had won in 1914-15, yes. Otherwise it would've meant Europe's loss of world domination still happens, communism still arrives in the East, colonisation ends, and Am*rica makes its abortive attempt at world leadership.
>>18223537A german victory means kaiserboos get their mitteleuropa fantasy. You think that's stable? Lmao.>no US/Wilson = even harsher, revengeful versailles but for France/UKBalkan-level salt in Western Europe. Perpetual revanche mode.>lebensraum logic still in playThey just ganked most of eastern europe. Now you have a hyper-militarized, antidemocratic German Empire sitting on a powder keg of suppressed nations. Total peace? Cope.>muh no hitlerBrainlet take. Material conditions for fascism still there.... just gotta rebrand the stab-in-the-back myth into something else. Ultranationalism, anti-semitism, and authoritarianism are still on the menu.Colonies just get germanified. Congo-style atrocities continue under a different flag.>no league of nations even as a failed experiment = no framework for later UN.Every great power just eats the weak in a perpetual dick-measuring contest.
Depends on wether or not a central powers victory leads to the complete destruction of the irredeemably evil ideology know as l*beral d*mocracy, it's malformed sibling c*munism and incestuous offspring know as"critical theory"(aka the frankfurt scool). If a central powers victory doesn't lead to a new world order absolutely dominated by paternal autocracies, sooner or later we still get the shitshow we're suffering through right now. Best case scenario, russia survives the war while the french r*public, the british p*rliamentary "monarchy" and the united states, die a horrible death that ensures the complete domination of tradicional european autocracy all over the world.
>>18223601thanks grokno, seriously. if you actually wrote like this, you actually write like an AI with the same patterns.
>>18223537Yes but only if the Habsburg faggots got wreckt in the process
>>18223601Germany couldn't enforce a versailles on britain, only on france. Which will seethe forever, true, but be too weak to do much about it.>lebensraum logic Was born from the defeat of WW1.>Ultranationalism, anti-semitism, and authoritarianism are still on the menu.Far less likely though. Unironically more likely to happen in france or (historically correct) italy.>Colonies just get germanified. Congo-style atrocities continue under a different flag.Eh. For the time being maybe. In the end, germany was decently democratizing before the war. I don't see how that doesn't continue after a won WW1. I think the aftermath would be a mixture of warsaw pact kind of rule slowly transitioning into an EU kind of organization.
>>18223653>Unironically more likely to happen in france or (historically correct) italy.Would Mussolini even be a thing? Would fascism even be known?
>>18223682Who can tell? By the butterfly effect, it would probably get a different name, but a similar ideology might very well rise.Of course it's just as possible france and italy will be utterly demoralized after losing WW1 and prefer reconciliation.
>>18223601>material conditions for fascismThe primary driver was the German soldier felt he was winning the war well into 1918 and then when things fall they fall very quickly and it looks like IT LOOKS like they were sabotaged on the home front.Without this there is no National Socialism.Material conditions is a meaningless term. Theres no such thing as magic material. Men are drivers of history and events.Atrocities didn’t occur under colonial rule anymore than they occurred under pre-European rule and the Germans were far more benevolent than the British. African analysts today consider the German colonies to be the only successful places where institutions by the colonizer were a net benefit because the Germans actually tried to integrate rather than labor farm.Something that also makes GPO look like a Polish myth (it is).>>18223653Germany could enforce a Versailles upon Britain. If Britain sued for peace and the conditions included a reducing in size of the British navy then yes Britain is subject to the closest largest navy, which belongs to the central powers.You’re essentially arguing Britain can never ever be defeated in war ever because their navy will always protect them. Well Britain’s navy was destroyed without a war and today they have more admirals than ships. Don’t understate how moronic the British are.Britain would collapse in the event of a Versailles peace with Germany and it would be very easy to hold Britain down because Britain’s power was the result of their pervasive empire and becoming a workshop island. You take away those elements and they become a more populous Ireland.Angolems wont like this but it’s true, they are identical to the Irish and their historical feats are anomalies.>>18223687Fascism isn’t an ideology nor does it arise from certain conditions. It is the result of a generation which loves their country such as Colonial America, Stalinist Russia, newly created Poland, Italy, and Germany.
>>18223537No. The only thing worse than militant autism is victorious militant autism. Also, the Kaiserreich was long term more dangerous than the Nazis, since they were AS ideologically self-destructive
>>18223545seethe you fucking kike
>>18223537No
>>18223568>>>/pol/
>>18223574>European powers might intervene in the Sino-Japanese war because of sheer Japanese brutalityCCP propaganda
>>18223537The best scenario would be if they didn't attack Belgium and Britain stayed neutral and Germany won
>>18223574Germany started communism and theres no world where Germany wins WW2 and Russia doesnt go red. Rest of this is shizo babble.
>>18224800>Wins WW1Fuck!
>>18223545Oh our board jew has his spergout again kek.
>>18224800I never said Russia wouldn't go red. I said the European powers would have kept it at check.Ahistorical and lacking in reading comprehension.
>>18223537Spiritual destruction of Europe, thirdie chimping and commie statism taking over happened during WW1, so no. The problem was the war starting not one side winning or not.
>>18225065The board mexican defending a country he would never be allowed into again kek.
>>18224797>if they didn't attack Belgium and Britain stayed neutralThe Germans explicitly asked the Bongs about it beforehand plus an open question about if there was anything else the Bongs would like on top of that in exchange for not joining the war. The Bongs instead admitted they were gonna join the war on the Entente side either way. To avert the Bongs joining something else must change earlier before the war. And no, it's not the naval build up either, as that was already over and buried (in hindsight, a mighty naive and mortal mistake on the Germans' part, considering we now know it didn't matter anyway to stop the Bongs from joining in war against the Germans; had the Germans known they could've instead kept it up and soon have outproduced Britain whose industry couldn't possibly keep up if Germany got serious, which in turn would've tipped the scales for the CP in WW1 with a fleet significantly surpassing the British, thus also cucking their hunger blockade etc.).
