>Anti-Roman Krauts believe that England, Austria, Switzerland, Belgium and Netherlands were not Germanic lands o algo
>>18223556Arguably the Belgae were Germanic, but the Britannic and Alpine tribes certainly weren't.
>>18223556Yes, those lands were not germanic but celtic when the romans conquered them. They became germanic when the germans conquered them from the romans.Oh, and also those german companies are the result of communism, not ancient roman occupation. Before WW2 german gdp per cap was pretty evenly distributed. Saxony especially was highly industrialized.
>>18223556Germans aren't even anti-roman. Most of us are kinda embarrassed we destroyed a highly developed civilization (well it mostly destroyed itself, but that's not common knowledge) and took centuries to reach their level again. It's rather mediterraneans that are anti-german.
>>18223570We Wuz Celts N' Shiet.>David Reich's laboratory found that 90% of Britain's Neolithic gene pool was overturned by a population from North Continental Europe characterised by the Bell Beaker culture around 1200 BC who carried a large amount of Yamnaya ancestry from the Pontic-Caspian Steppe, including the R1b Haplogroup. This population lacked genetic affinity to other Bell Beaker populations, such as the Iberian Bell Beakers, but appeared to be an offshoot of the Corded Ware single grave people. It is currently unknown whether these Beaker peoples went on to develop Celtic languages in the British Isles, or whether later Celtic migrations introduced Celtic languages to Britain>The close genetic affinity of these Beaker people to Continental North Europeans means that British and Irish populations cluster genetically very closely with other Northwest European populations, regardless of how much Anglo-Saxon and Viking ancestry was introduced during the 1st century>The German Swiss (Deutschschweizer) are mostly speakers of different varieties of Alemannic German. They are historically amalgamated from the Gallo-Roman population, consisting mostly of romanized Helvetii, Raurici, Roman immigrants and the Alemanni. Closely related German-speaking peoples are the Alsatians, the Swabians and the Vorarlbergians. German speakers (including German and Austrian immigrants) accounted for 62.3% of the population as of 2020>Most present-day Germans can be modelled as three-way admixture between SGermany_EIA (54.5±2%) [Celtic], NGermany_Roman (33.8±2.5%) [Germanic] and a third, northeastern European source (here Latvia_BA, 11.7±1.2%) representing further admixture introduced after the initial admixture event, potentially connected to Slavic-speaking populations migrating into eastern Germany during the Middle AgesIf Britbongs and Swiss are not Germanic, then more than half of Germany is not Germanic.
>>18223610>weren'tLearn to read.There was nothing Germanic whatsoever about Britons and Alpines before the Migration Period, today there is.
England didn't exist in the Roman era, Britain was a collection of Celtic-speaking tribes before the Romans arrived, and largely remained such after the Romans departed. The Germanization of Britain didn't occur until the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes invaded and then settled much of the southern part of Britain, created the Anglo-Saxon kingdoms that would be the core of what is now England. Similarly, Switzerland and Austria were also not countries in the Roman era, nor did their modern day German-speaking populations live there. What is now Switzerland was inhabited by a Celtic tribe known to the Romans as the Helvetii, whom the Romans grouped broadly with Gauls. They remained on the Swiss plateau until the Germanic invasions during the later Western Empire, where they were forced out by the Alemanni and Burgundian germanic tribes, who formed the Germanic population of Switzerland going forward. Finally, Austria was known to the Romans as Noricum, which had a Celtic-speaking population and culture more closely related to Gaul than to Germania to the north. The Noricum celts displaced other iron age peoples who lived in what is now Austria through a series of expansionist wars. The Germanic invasions saw the Celtic-speaking population largely supplanted, and though other groups would also stake a claim in what is now Austria (including various Slavs and Avars) the bulk of its population would remain Germanic thanks to the consolidation of the region under Odoacer and the Ostrogoths, before being folded into Charlemagne's Frankish Empire.
>>18223556the romans turned german land into romanthe germans became romans when they entered roman land
>>18223622>today there isCope. British people are still mostly Britons, or non-Proto-Germanics from Bell Beaker because they speak a Celtic language like the South Germans, according to your retarded logic.>The 2022 genetic study on modern English people, published by Nature, showed that the average English person is some combination of 25-47% Anglo-Saxon (some of that could have come from later Scandinavian influence because the Angles, Saxons and Jutes were really similar), 14-57% pre-Saxon Briton, and the remainder, if any, is filled by French influence from after the Anglo-Saxon invasion. The study also showed that people of 100% pre-Saxon Briton dna were buried in the same way that an Anglo-Saxon might be buried, with items indicating the same status as other Anglo-Saxons>All of this means that the Anglo-Saxons came on large numbers, but they didn’t replace or genocide the natives. The two groups heavily mixed and the Britons in England assimilated to Anglo-Saxon culture. Then, probably at several points afterward, Frenchmen came in waves to further affect the English gene pool (Frankish migrants, the Normans, the Huguenots, etc.)>Pic related: Red = Anglo-Saxon, blue = Briton, green = French. If I messed anything up, I’m sure an anon will correct me
>>18223654>the germans became romans when they entered roman landYeah no, not really. Germans brought Salic law with them into Roman territories, and held to their own Germanic traditions of chivalry and honor rather than Roman virtus and dignitas.
>>18223657>British people are still mostly BritonsYour own image disproves this. England, by far the most populous nation on Britain, is the least Britonic nation, with the single largest genetic grouping being Germanic. It's literally only Wales, Cornwall, Ireland, and Scotland you still see strong Britonic gene pools. The contention was never that Anglo-Saxons colonized the entirety of Great Britain, only that they were the primary genetic stock of ENGLAND.
>>18223673>British comes from England o algo>The word "British" comes from Old English Bryttisc, meaning "of the ancient Britons," derived from Latin Britannia, which itself comes from the Common Brittonic Pritanī, likely meaning "tattooed people">The name "England" comes from the Old English "Englaland," meaning "land of the Angles," one of the Germanic tribes (along with Saxons and Jutes) who settled Britain after the Romans leftWhy aren't they called the Anglic People or Islands if the British people truly became Germanic when they started speaking a Germanic language, even though their genetics are the same? It seems strange that the Celticmutts Briti... I mean Anglic are so superior to the Germans, it's as if they were Double Germanics.
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>>18223717>Germany is a Celtic nation that LARPing as Germanic>UK is a Germanic nation that LARPing as Celtic
>>18223717The leftside map was made with mapcharts.net, i.e. some retard on the internet made it and therefore there is no reason to take it seriously.
>>18223644>>18223757>Hallstatt wasn't Celtic o algo
>The term Caucasian as a racial category was introduced in the 1780s by members of the Göttingen school of history – notably Christoph Meiners in 1785 and Johann Friedrich Blumenbach in 1795 —it had originally referred in a narrow sense to the native inhabitants of the Caucasus region>Christoph Meiners (German pronunciation: [ˈkrJstɔf ˈmaJ̯nɐs]; 31 July 1747 – 1 May 1810) was a German racialist, philosopher, historian, and writer born in Warstade. He supported the polygenist theory of human origins. He was a member of the Göttingen school of history>He wrote on comparative history and cultural history. He is now known mostly for his critical attitude towards Immanuel Kant, Mary Wollstonecraft and the concept of Enlightenment. He died in Göttingen. He later became the favorite intellectual ancestor of the Nazis>Meiners was a polygenist: he believed that each race had a separate origin. He was a very early practitioner of scientific racism. Meiners studied the physical, mental and moral characteristics of each race, and built a race hierarchy based on the evidence that was considered common in scientific and anthropological circles at the time. In Meiners's book The Outline of History of Mankind he claimed that a main characteristic of race is either beauty or ugliness. He viewed only the white race as beautiful. He considered ugly races as inferior, immoral, and animal-like. He claimed that the black ugly peoples are distinct from the white beautiful peoples by their sad lack of virtue and their terrible vices>According to Meiners:>"The more intelligent and noble people are by nature, the more adaptable, sensitive, delicate, and soft is their body; on the other hand, the less they possess the capacity and disposition towards virtue, the more they lack adaptability; and not only that, but the less sensitive are their bodies, the more can they tolerate extreme pain or the rapid alteration of heat and cold;
>>18223778>Niedersachsen("<30% Celtic") and Nordrhein-Westfalen(">50% Celtic") have the same distance to HallstattThanks for proving my point. Though this map also seems to be made with mapcharts, but I guess it can be taken more seriously when it is this precise instead of just vaguely saying "Celtic Admixture" as if that could even be objectively measured.
>When they are exposed to illnesses, the more rapid their recovery from wounds that would be fatal for more sensitive peoples, and the more they can partake of the worst and most indigestible foods... without noticeable ill effects>Meiners claimed the Negro felt less pain than any other race and lacked in emotions. Meiners wrote that the Negro had thick nerves and thus was not sensitive like the other races, he went as far to say that the Negro has “no human, barely any animal feeling” he described a story where a Negro was condemned to death by being burned alive, halfway through the burning the Negro asked to smoke a pipe and smoked it like nothing was happening while he continued to be burned alive. Meiners studied the anatomy of the Negro and came to the conclusion that the Negro have bigger teeth and jaws than any other race, as the Negro are all carnivores. Meiners claimed the skull of the Negro was larger but the brain of the Negro was smaller than any other race. Meiners claimed the Negro was the most unhealthy race on earth because of the Negro's poor diet, mode of living and lack of morals he said>Meiners also claimed Native Americans were an inferior stock of people. He claimed that Indians cannot adapt to different climates, different types of food or modes of life and that when they are exposed to these new conditions they lapse into a “deadly melancholy”. Meiners studied the diet of the Indians and said that they can feed off any kind of “foul offal” and that they consume huge amounts of alcohol. According to Meiners the Indians are extremely thick as the Spanish conquerors found out when their blades shattered on them. Meiners also claimed the skin of a Native American is thicker than an ox
>Meiners wrote that the noblest race was the Celts, and they were able to conquer various parts of the world, were more sensitive to heat and cold and their delicacy is shown by the way they are selective about what they eat. Meiners claimed Slavs are an inferior race, "less sensitive and content with eating rough food”; he described stories of Slavs eating poisonous fungi without coming to any harm. He claimed that their medical techniques were also backwards such as the Slavs baking sick people in ovens then making them roll in the snow>Below the Slavs are the peoples of the Middle East and Asia, all limited in intelligence and of an evil disposition, which goes together with lack of adaptability and insensitivity>In Meiners large work entitled Researches on the variations in human nature (1815), he studied the sexology of each race and claimed that the African Negroids have unduly strong and perverted sex drives, while only white Europeans have it at appropriately lower levelsGermanicsisters, the person most similar to us in the 18th century was a Celtboo.
>>18223797>Jastorf and Hallstatt didn't come from Bell Beaker o algo
The ironic thing is that, besides the Bell Beakers being more phenotypically similar to the Celts than the Germanic, the British Bell Beakers replaced the entire EEF population of the British Isles unlike the German Bell Beakers. >The conclusions immediately met with push-back. Some of it began even before the papers were published, says Reich. When he circulated a draft among his dozens of collaborators, several archaeologists quit the project. To many, the idea that people linked to Corded Ware had replaced Neolithic groups in Western Europe was eerily reminiscent of the ideas of Gustaf Kossinna, the early-twentieth-century German archaeologist who had connected Corded Ware culture to the people of modern Germany and promoted a ‘Risk board’ view of prehistory known as settlement archaeology. The idea later fed into Nazi ideology>Many archaeologists are also trying to understand and engage with the inconvenient findings from genetics. Carlin, for instance, says that the Bell Beaker genome study sent him on “a journey of reflection” in which he questioned his own views about the past. He has pored over the selection of DNA samples included in the study as well as the basis for its conclusion that the appearance of Bell Beaker artefacts coincided with a greater than 90% replacement in Britain’s gene poolThere's no way around it. Britbongs are the most Aryan people in the world.
>>18223556The german identity wasn't even conceptualized back then and that word was specifically invented by Romans to generalize their kind across tribal boundaries
You live in a favela Cleiton, what causes this much obsession with Germany?
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