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Why did China invent such an elaborate ethical system? Unlike the West, they figured it all out.
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>>18224811
I figured out your mom
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>>18224811
I suppose its kinda like the separation of church and state sorta thing. When your ethical thinkers are literal rulers like Justinian or pseudo rulers like the Pope, ethics is going to be clouded by greed for power. Might also explain why history looks somewhat favourably upon ancient Greece with respect to ethics, relative to other european cultures throughout history.
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>>18224979
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>>18224811
>Why did China invent such an elaborate ethical system? Unlike the West, they figured it all out.
As a self-admitted sinophile, I don't think it's any more or less complex or elaborate than what we have in the West. But maybe it seems that way since the scholarly tradition of Ru classicism (what normies call Confucianism) go further back than the Greek philosophers and China has basically ran on that system until a 100 yeara ago. I also wouldn't say they figured it out, ask the millions of Chinese who died in famines or rebellions. The West also imported much more ideologies from other cultures (Judaism into Christianity, Greek philosophy, Roman law) so it may often feel like our own morals and understanding of the world contradict with each other. Since Confucianism was made in China for chinese governance it's difficult for foreign ideologies to take root. Even in the modern age thats why China seems to be looking at Confucian revivalism. I would say Confucianism is consistent with the Chinese worldview, moreso than the West own moral basis is consistent with it's worldview. But I may be wrong
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>they figured it all out
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daoism is hocus pocus magic
Confucianism is hierarchy, respect kings, respect father, etc

legalism is actually the real distilled separation between ethics, morality, and law, legalism is actually about control, it is not ethical in it's philosophy or implementation, the only subtle difference is the layers of application

most famous example is shang yang himself, the architect of qin's rise, long story short he was undone by his own laws, the caveat is that ofc qin kinds are not held to that standard, and here is the catch, the same exception is built into the social credit system in china, everyone top down the society must abide by it, except the highest members of ccp, they just infer it

those 3 systems are not equal, legalism will continue to outlast every system, only because it gives no moral pretense to control
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>>18226016
>The West also imported much more ideologies from other cultures (Judaism into Christianity, Greek philosophy, Roman law)
I don't even know where to begin with this other than you need to study more Western history.
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>>18226198
It's true, though.
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>>18226036
But cumrade this is right an proper, it only needs dedovshchina for trad based gommunism
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>>18226095
>t. Lord Shang.



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