>Advocate for Germany's complete disintegration at Versailles>Spend decades in the interwar period as the foremost anti-German power in the world>Finally get the war they want against Hitler>Capitulate immediately and become an obedient Nazi vassalWhat was their problem?
>>18225371they built a giant wall but superior german tacticians came up with a 500 IQ strategy of simply walking around said wall and France simply could never have seen this coming
>>18225371>Capitulate immediately and become an obedient Nazi vassalSome collaborators? Absolutely. But the real France? Free French forces fought on from Day 1. Provided critical intelligence, commandos, and eventually a full army for D-Day and the libération. End of war? France has fourth-largest Allied army in Europe, takes heavy casualties in final campaign. Immediate capitulation is wehraboo fanfiction. You fell for Nazie propaganda, mon ami.
>>18225378ESL gibberish
>>18225371I think the fractured nature of their society in world war 2 was what did them in, that and their terrible tactics during the germans initial invasion. The communist / human divide in the nation caused problems. Why its wise to kill communist movements immediately
>>18225379Squid off, just squid off! French impact on WW2 is not one to be underestimated, our résistance is strong. We are the proud descendants of a nation that resisted the Nazi invasion, with very limited support from their UK comrades. Without us there would have been no D Day, and no D Day would have meant no Allied victory, and no Allied victory means Adolf Hitler would have won, and you would be saying “Hey Daddy Adolf, thanks for killing millions of Jewish people, you absolute legend!” How does it feels to be hitler's cocksucker?
>>18225371France's collapse in 1940 makes sense when you look at how they got screwed after WWI. They bled dry, over a million dead, and got Alsace (which they already had 50 years ago) + Syria. Their "harsh demands" were watered down by allies, and they got nothing on security guarantees. Meanwhile, Britain got the best Ottoman territories (the ones with oil) and the German navy destroyed.France was drowning in debt to the allies, expecting German reparations that never came and couldn't force because no one helped or at least accepted France's actions to actually impose the treaty they colective signed (UK signed, not the US, but still). By the 1930s, the attitude was: "Why die in a war if we lose the peace anyway?" And you know whats funny? Almost every "extreme" French demand in 1919 became reality after WWII: >Germany was divided>German territories were handed over to another country (not to France thought, to Poland)>Germany paid reparations (although the americans helped)>Germany was castrated. But when France asked for it in 1919, it was "too much". Their "problem" was zero faith that winning another war would solve anything. Last time, they got nothing meaningfull, were left bankrupt, destroyed and without securities, and watched Germany rearm. Now, with Russia gone, France was the only great power (Poland wasn't really a great Power) in mainland Europe against a enemy with twice its population/economy + Fascist Italy.
>>18225378Boo hoo. Work on your English skills.- https://www.e-grammar.org/time-clauses/- https://www.englisch-hilfen.de/en/exercises_list/pronomen.htm
>>18225643Germany surrendered in WW2. They had signed an armistice in WW1. Two completely different things.France was demanding Germany be treated as a conquered nation in WW1 when the Germans hadn't legally surrendered. It undermined Wilson's and Lloyd George's entire ambition of making Germany democratic.When they couldn't convince the British and Americans, France took it into her own hands to sabotage the early German republic through invading the Ruhr and engineering the 1923 economic collapse, which is what Hitler used to start the Beer Hall Putsch and become famous. Without France's actions, Hitler remains a nobody, the Nazis never come to power, and WW2 never occurs
>>18225378Thats like having the 4th biggest dick on an island with 3 men
>>18225372It was so retarded it had to have been on purpose. Of course the French, the infinite moralizers, would depict the Germans as cowards
>>18225675>and engineering the 1923 economic collapseRetard.The hyperinflation was self-made by the Germans. It's not even a debate among historians anymore. The German government began printing money, mainly to pay every Ruhr worked from simply not working, but also to hurt France because Germany did not want the war reparations to have any actual value.And no, it's not what led Hitler to power.NSDAP had 2% of the vote during the 1920s.What set them off to 30% in just a couple of years was the Great Depression.
>>18225719The Depression was to a very significant extent caused by France over accumulating gold reserves doever
>>18225719Name one country whose economy wouldn't collapse if its main industrial area was occupied by a hostile foreign power
>>18225719The Ruhr invasion absolutely caused the 1923 depression, or at least greatly exacerbated it>The German government began printing moneyYeah, no shit, as a result of the Ruhr invasion
>>18225751The United States
>>18225371France is the woman that nags you because deep down she wants to be beaten.
>>18225773Holy TRUTHNUKE
>>18225643>>18225675It's funny how the romantic delusion of conquering Europe on some muddy battlefield gets punted back and forth between France and Germany every few decades with the occasional hamfisted Russian attempt thrown in. The british probably come off best in that light, they act as minders, but part of me is interested to know more about the world where Napoleon won &c.
>>18225371> NAW YOU HAVE TO LET YOUR COUNTRY BE DESTROYED IN DEFENCE OF INTERNATIONAL JEWRYNo.Also, France was not a vassal of Germany, if they were, they would have send their huge navy to assist the German war effort.France's wise decision to not fight a bloody war in defence of the vile jew is why it managed to retain large parts of its empire after WWII.
>>18225378>But the real France?The real France was allied with Aryans not jews.France's foremost poet was more counter Semitic than the NAZIs themselves.
>>18226480France was allowed to keep their empire precisely because of how Jewish it is. Jews always favored France over Britain
>>18226480France was far more pro-war than England or even America was prior to 1939 lmao. Them switching sides was 100% unprincipled opportunism
>>18226481Your idol Hitler disagrees. Pretty much all of Mein Kampf is him claiming France is the ultimate Jewish state bent on destroying Germanic civilization
>>18225719>The hyperinflation was self-made by the Germans.It had to be, given the massive amount of money demanded by the French.
>>18226485Are you delusional?The Brits literally created a state for the jew.The Brits were always shabbos Goyim.>>18226494Nope, it was simply within their interests to do so.Futhremore, they were DEEPLY enthusiastic supporters of national socialism as indicated by the cheer amount of French volunteers to the 3rd Reich armed forces.
>>18226507I'm a Nazi but you're embarrassing us. Please shut up and stop this nonsense
>>18225438Axis had already lost by D-day. It was about the western allies taking as big a portion of Europe under wing as possible before the red tide swept in more than it was about a dramatic turn in the war with Germany. But go off I guess.
>>18226507Israel was literally created by France and the USSR lmao. The British were the only Western power not to vote in favor of a sovereign Israel, due to the obvious fact that Israelis engaged in terrorism against them (which the French and Soviets supported)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine#Abstentions_(10_countries)
>>18226507>by the cheer amount of French volunteers to the 3rd Reich armed forcesthere were barely any
>>18226507>The Brits literally created a state for the jew.No they didn't>Futhremore, the [French] were DEEPLY enthusiastic supporters of national socialismNo they weren't. France was probably the most anti-German nation in Europe, other than Poland and the USSR (for obvious reasons)
>>18226480France is allowed to retain its imperialist sphere of influence because Paris and New York finance share a collaborative relationship
>>18226514I am not a NAZI retard.>>18226522>Israel was literally created by France and the USSR lmao.False, it was the Anglos who took Palestine from the ottoman and began infesting with jew migrants all while protecting them from various Arab attempts to remove them.> due to the obvious fact that Israelis engaged in terrorism against themWhich Brits refused to effectively counter.>>18226528There was plenty.Many of them died in the defence of Berlin.>>18226536>No they didn'tYes, they did.
>>18226555And London does not, LOL!
>>18225378we have it on record the french civilians saw the anglo-american invasion force as - surprise surprise - invaders. the fact is most french people didn't give a fuck about the occupation.
>>18225371>>Capitulate immediately and become an obedient Nazi vassalhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_France
>>18226557>I am not a NAZISo stfu and stop cosplaying as one.>>18226559I didn't say that. But yes, the British were a barrier to American world domination, in the 19th and early 20th century. Obviously that's not the case anymore, now they're an obedient vassal state of Washington DC.France and America are almost the same thing, both creating by interlinked revolutions in the late 18th century and backed by identical financial powers
>>18226557>it was the Anglos who took Palestine from the ottoman and began infesting with jew migrantsYou know the Ottomans were the first to let Jews move to Palestine right? The British simply made the same error as the previous rulers of the land. But it was French PM Leon Blum along with Soviet intelligence who actually financed Israel's creation
>>18225372The wall was meant to continue into Belgium, along the Albert Canal, which would have blocked Germany's access to France and forced them to attack the wall - perfectly forcing Germany into a war that the restrictions of the Versailles treaty would have meant Germany was almost unable to win (even with the French government taking a machete to their military spending in the interwar years). Unfortunately the Belgians decided that sticking hard to their commitment to 'neutrality' made more sense than actually defending themselves, and refused to allow the French to build the last section of the Maginot line.
>>18226573>You know the Ottomans were the first to let Jews move to Palestine right?Not in any meaningful amount.>>18226566>So stfu and stop cosplaying as one.Never pretended to be one, you LARPY fuck.>>18226573>The British simply made the same errorIt's called the Balfour declaration.
>>18225371They didn't want war against Hitler. And it makes sense that France was anti-Germany following WW1 considering France took the brunt of German aggression during the first war
>>18225378From the French surrender in 1940 until their eventual liberation Vichy France was the "real France." You might not like that France was basically a German puppet throughout much of the war but that's the reality
