What is it about feudalism that every political system devolves into it in the long run?>Socialism -> bureaucratic feudalism>Liberalism -> banana feudalism>Neoliberalism -> Neofeudalism
>>18239239>why does organized civilization always boil down to (slavery enforced by violence)
>>18239239>What is it about feudalism that every political system devolves into it in the long run?It doesn't. Feudalism only emerged because of the failure of the Carolingian dynasty after Louis to keep a tight grip on magnates, eventually leading to their appropriation of royal offices after Charles the Fat died. Feudalism in the history of the west is the exception, not the norm. The Greek states were nearly all city states, only Macedon and Epirus (and the later Hellenistic kingdoms) bucked the trend, and Macedon and Epirus were more like organised tribes and magnates working under a powerful king. The Roman Republic was a collection of city states, which merely expanded massively and turned their ad hoc administration of foreigners into a formal administration, which became more and more formal as time went on until Diocletian. The early medieval kings ruled more like the Macedonian and Epirot kings, and Charlemagne and Louis clamped down heavily on magnate expressions of personal power even outside of royal offices.Feudalism only existed from the late 9th century to the 15th in any meaningful way. Especially as early modern kings dissolved the institution.
>>18239239I want to be a yeoman or what is the NEET in feudalism?
>>18239454Beggers and lepers.
>>18239239Because feudalism is a loose term and often defined incredibly vaguely. The result of this allows for basically any somewhat decentralised system with a hierarchy to be called feudalistic.Once you start being more specific with your terminology and look more into what was actually going on in high medieval western Europe you'll find that it was unique and certainly isn't replicated in any of your examples.
>>18239239at its basis it's really just a micro kingdom, which is basically probably the first organized society we have. It's the default, when civilization fails and you have to hit factory reset, that's what happens. >>18239296when Diocletian reforms tied people to land and profession, what would you call that? When the large estates started to become self efficient little places to escape the reformed tax code, what was that? >>18239253exactly.
>>18239454In ascending order of how much work you'd had to do but also how many resources you'd have >rural tramp >seasonal worker >be related to someone with a decent farm or business You would still have had to work, but you wouldn't have been expected to do any full working weeks or work every week of the year. >>18239604That's one level down.
>>18239239Feudalism is based and we should return to it.
>>18240088We ARE returning to it. Except nobles are industry moguls, and now they have the omnipresence of gods to see you work yourself to death or drop you in jail. Business owners are the new peasants and you, you are the wheat or the chaff.
>>18240104I meant OG feudalism not this neo-larper bullshit.
>>18239618>when Diocletian reforms tied people to land and professionHe didn't. Those are from Constantine. The bounding of people to land only existed in the Western Prefecture and there is no evidence it occurred elsewhere. The inherited professions were only applied to certain cities, for example the role of a baker was hereditary in the city of Rome, but there is no evidence that was the case in any other part of Italy.>When the large estates started to become self efficient little places to escape the reformed tax codeDiocletian's reformed tax code was made explicitly to crack down on these large estates. They did not escape anything.I know you're trying to imply that large estates and tenant farmers means Feudalism, which in that case the Roman Republic was also Feudal, so was every other ancient state from the Near East. Feudalism needs private individuals to hold considerable political power and offices independent of the state or ruler, which did not occur in any period of the Roman state. The estates in Late Antiquity had no independent power, they had no ability to challenge the state and were completely at the mercy of it.
>Feudalism is when Hierarchy.
>>18239239Pyramids are stable structures and aristocracies are natural.
>>18239239Because "rule by the elite" is the end-state of a degenerated human politic. "Feudalism" is what happens when a pre-modern monarchy degenerates. Corporate feudalism is what happens when a capitalist liberal country degenerates.To put it simply, whanever a country is rotting and worsening and the political system is shit, it's probably because an elite aristocracy took charge of it.
>>18241453>"rule by the elite" is the end-stateFTFY
>>18239239why do retards use feudalism to mean hierarchy
