Why is psychology/psychoanalysis still taken seriously?
>>18239479What do you mean? Both are very different approaches, for modern psychology everything is about changing thoughts, it's not different from self-help and it believes humans are robots that can be programmed, psychoanalysis is about finding the root causes of trauma, and it aknowledges that humans are animals with repressed pulsations
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>>18239515My issues is that both of these disciplines work from the premises that are utter fucking horseshit. None of it has any evidence behind it. None of it is repeatable or predictable. Psychology is just religion on material plane.
>>18239523>muh evidencedo you need evidence for having dreams, traumas, repetitive behaviors? why do people end up in shitty relationships, sabotage themselves, etc? anyone with a little capacity for intronspection, or just observing others can tell the unconscious is so obvious and real
It's not. A big chunk of modern psychology courses are about undoing Freud.
>>18239607>dreamsZero reason to believe that dreams have any significance besides the brain glitching during sleep>traumasMade up shit >repetitive behavior ???>why do people end up in shitty relationships, sabotage themselvesLow IQ, poor choices>anyone with a little capacity for intronspection, or just observing others can tell the unconscious is so obvious and realAgain, you made it the fuck up
>>18239612>brain glitching during sleepif dreams were purely random why so many people have common dreams? like teeth falling, being trapped in a desert or in an elevator, being chased etc. they are also influenced by your mood, so if you're worried you'll have nightmares>>18239612>Made up shitlol>>18239612>Low IQ, poor choiceseveryone does this>>18239612>you made it the fuck up"I" didn't
>>18239639>why do people who have the same kind of brain and roughly the same lifestyles and experiences see similar dreams?It's a mystery, must be the Shadow or World-Soulthe rest is not even worth addressing
>>18239643>must be the Shadow or World-Soulthis but unironically
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>>18239612> Bro still thinks psychology is in the 1940sKek your ignorance reveals youre low iq
>>18239643Because of archetypes why even discuss psychology if retards dont even know the basics, atleast you said shadow thats a start
>>1823947990% of psychology is reduced to simple pavlov conditioning. It's still bullshit.
>>18239479Because free will is horse shit, one of the biggest scams ever thought up by juden
>>18239479If psychology/psychoanalysis is done by smart people with good pattern recognition skills it can lead to helpful production of some kind, sort of.But it isn't. So we get a nice book on it every few decades, but people are worse off than ever (they just live longer).The most tormented people I know are psychologists. That's a bit weird, right? The single largest contributor to psychology in the 2010s is who, Jordan Peterson? And he's a drug addicted mess. Guy's 2020s have been hellish.Brain science might not be possible. Psychohistory might be possible if its decoupled from "helping people" which is a total failure.
>>18239479glad to see /his/ is a /sci/ allied board.
>>18239523I went to a counselor, and all she did was talk about herself, how much she hates trunp, and how everyone has their own truth. The corruption is deep.
>>18239612100% agree, most of people that I know that are in therapy they didn't solve any problems after years , and wasting a lot of money >>18239639>If dreams were purely random why so many people have common dreams? like teeth falling, being trapped in a desert or in an elevator, being chased etc. I never dreamt about this shit, but I dream about to drive me has(and I'm not even a mecha otaku or bullshit like that) or other crazy shit like be on the space or in ancient times
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>>18239607Show me one SINGLE randomized double blind peer reviewed study that can prove anyone has EVER had one of these so-called "dreams". You can't!Nobody has ever dreamed anything. There is only random neuronal activity during sleep, and the people who make up lies after the fact to feel special.
It isn't. At least not in the field of psychology. It is studied only to provide a historical framework for the field, it's not seriously practiced by licensed psychiatrists anymore.
>>18239479It's just a scam for dumb people who can't handle their own problems so they pay someone to blame their mommy and daddy for everything. Real men don't need therapy, they deal with it and being themselves. It's not even real science. All those theories are just made up nonsense by weird Europeans from 100 years ago who were probably high on meth. Anyone who believes in it is just weak and looking for excuses.
Psychoanalysis is bunk, has always been bunk, but it is important to know about because it is part of the early history of psychology as a scientific practice. Psychoanalysis is little better than fortune telling, whereas modern psychology attempts to apply scientific rigor to the study of human behavior and thought. Unfortunately, studying human behavior and thought requires studying humans, which requires experimenting on humans. Believe it or not, this wasn't considered a problem 100+ years ago, and people performed experiments that today would get you thrown in prison for life. Anymore though, psychologists are extremely limited on what they can test, so much of psychology is now a "soft" science, the softest of soft sciences, with untestable hypotheses and unrepeatable experiments. Outside biochemistry and neurology, of course, which remain respectable hard science owing to their medical nature.
