>culturally colonizes England so well that before the 17th century is even over the Brits have enthroned a Dutchman as their King how the actual FUCK did a bunch of swamp krauts surrounded by p*pists pull this off while simultaneously throwing off their Spanish handlers?
>>18239613>Culturally colonizesDid they? What's the linguistic, cultural, or legal influence in British culture? You can say the Normans morphed England's culture extensively, that's self evident, but the Dutch?
>>18239774I once did a canal tour in Canterbury, and the tour guide told me the Dutch introduced a new type of small boat with which to sail said canal.
>>18239774they've turned anglos into money-obsessed kikes
>>18239788Anglos have always been like that. The entire domestic history of England for the past millennium has essentially been one long dispute over taxation.
>>18239774>https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Category:English_terms_derived_from_Middle_Dutch&pageuntil=KIP%0Akip#mw-pages>https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Category:English_terms_derived_from_Middle_Dutch&pageuntil=KIP%0Akip#mw-pagesWords like cricket and scone are of dutch origin lmao
>>18239774There was a significant influx of skilled Dutch and Flemish Protestant refugees ("Strangers") in the 1560s, particularly weavers, who established thriving textile communities, boosting Sandwich's economy under royal permission, forming distinct communities that brought new trades and cultural influences. The one at Sandwich spawned others during the Elizabethan era and continued to grow under James and Charles's reigns. I forgot the title of the book that inspired me to make this thread and I don't have it on hand but I'll post it tomorrow
>>18239850>>18239823This isn't colonization though, the native English weren't being subjugated by a new colonial master class of Dutchmen, they merely interacted with tradesmen and immigrants who if anything were the ones who'd suffer discrimination as foreigners."Colonization" implies a tiered social division, e.g. the Normans who did in fact subjugate and discriminated against the Anglo-Saxons by replacing their native Nobility.
>>18239788>Island nation dependant on maritime trade for its economic survival is money obsessed Shocking stuff. What's next, you telling me Russians are obsessed with land because they need buffer zones as defence strategies due to being located on a wide open flat plain?
>>18239934ACKSHUALLY, the definition of 'colonize' is >1. (of a country or its citizens) send a group of settlers to (a place) and establish political control over it. "the Greeks colonized Sicily and southern Italy">the native English weren't being subjugated by a new colonial master class of DutchmenColonization isn't just subjugation, redditor. The connections that formed between England, and East Anglia in particular, and the Dutch during the late 16th and early 17th century was a cultural exchange driven by market forces that stretched from the Mediterranean to the Baltic. The Dutch became the equivalent of the Silk Road *within* and across Europe. Colonization isn't subjection - it's an exchange of cultures. >they merely interacted with tradesmen and immigrants>merelyNgmi>"Colonization" implies a tiered social division>impliesIt absolutely does not. What is even your basis for such a statement?
>>18239938Based take
>>18240222Dutch colonizing England is the same as Japan colonizing China, there were too many natives for the Dutch to replace, and by the 18th century England had more money and ships and Holland was reduced to a minor power
>>18240222Come on Anon, we all know the modern usage of the term colonize often implies a comparison to the 18th-19th century Empires and their subjugation of overseas areas. OP was obviously using it in this manner since this shit board is a poor man's /int/ without flags and 90% of posts here are just "this X nationality is gay and stinky, Y nationality is sexy and cool" lmao
>>18240255>there were too many natives for the Dutch to replaceYou don't have to replace the native population to be a fucking colonizer you retard>>18240396>the modern usage>impliesRetard alert>OP was obviously using it in this mannerI'm OP you faggot, and no, I was not. Dutch merchants and canal engineers planted themselves across Europe, and in Sandwich, England in particular they started a proverbial "colony" in every sense of the word. But I guess that's not """colonization""" because you retards don't have an IQ high enough to even begin thinking outside of whatever meme conception you have of the term. I thought I was on /his/, but clearly it's /reddit/
>>18240255>there were too many natives for the Dutch to replaceThis is a profoundly retarded argument, I guess the dutch also didn't colonize indonesia, or the brits india for that matter
>>18239850The book is Charles Wilson's 'The Dutch Republic'Picrelated - the "engine" waterwheel and pump that a DUTCHMAN, Peter Morice built in 1582 to pump water into London. The draining of the Fens in East Anglia? The land that greatly expanded England's arable land? AND the Fen's that some dude name Oliver Cromwell represented during his time in Parliament? All by a Dutchmen using Dutch/Flemish laborers
>>18240810>emigrating to a country to work there is colonizationI bet you’re brown and think moving to Europe to live on gibbs and work at Tesco is “conquest.” You’re definitely ESL because you don’t understand the different tones English words have even if they technically have the same dictionary definition. That anon is picking up on this because “colonization” has a tone to it like “look at” and “peer at” have different tones. It implies something like settlers moving somewhere and running shit for themselves. Debrówjík from Poland moving with a dozen of his friends to Slough to plumb toilets isn’t colonization. In the same way, no one says the mass immigration of Irish, German, and Italian immigrants into the US was “colonization,” because it obviously wasn’t. You are the one with a retarded conception of what colonization means. Also>redditFunny coming from someone with the most retarded, regurgitated reddit take on the Glorious Revolution.>muh random Dutchman conquered EnglandExcept he was Charles I’s grandson, James II and VII’s nephew, and 4th in line for the throne and invited to rule by England’s top generals and nobility, and only if he ruled jointly with his wife and cousin, James II and VII’s daughter Mary II, who was 2nd in line. So Dutch that he was half Scottish/French and raised by Scottish advisors, segregated from Dutch society in his youth. It’s all retarded from the jump to pretend royals were mega mutts too. Literally just shut up.
>>18241062>cross the channel with the largest fleet ever assembled and an army of 40.000 men>uh actually we wanted itis there a more tsundere nation?
>>18241062>I b-b-b-b-bet y-you're b-b-brown>t.Could you be any more of a seething brainlet right now? Is the brown boogeyman in your basement right now, faggot? >Glorious Revolution Not what I was referring to, dipshit. Your """understanding""" of history is so pathetic it's not even funny. DvtchBVLLS were injecting their cultural semen into England proper during Elizabeth's reign you mouthbreathing halfwit. See >>18240998>muh random Dutchman conquered EnglandYou're so fucking pathetic it's not even funny. Where did anyone say anything about William? Where? Point to the post, anon. I'll wait. In the meantime, wipe away those tears from seething so hard you probably shit your pants in pure rage. Fucking retard, you can't even construct a legitimate strawman. Absolutely pathetic.
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>>18241062I knew you wouldn't respond you little retard
