uh yeah, i totally care about nature and shit
Well those things deforestate whole regions
>>18240218Do conservationfags understand that it's completely negligible to shoot like 5% of the males of a species in an area each year
>>18240218Is hunting not part of conservation? Yes or no?
OP is on the right track proven by the thread immediately filling with the most annoying retards imaginable
>>18240304It is a simple question >>18240295 Yes or no?
>>18240228As opposed to the deforestated areas that get built upon and then no longer have a chance to even regrow
>>18240311Elephants make the desert advance. Africans know this and cull their numbers.
>>18240308>Is killing a part of not killing?
>>18240314Bullshit. Elephants are part of the ecosystem and are key to several of the biometrics they live in.>>18240233Male elephants are a vital part of elephants social structures and the transfer of knowledge between the older and younger members of an elephant pod.
>>18240328>not killing is conservation When did this change happen?
>>18240295No.
>>18240314An Elephant is worth more than all the brown biomass of africa
>>18240866So uncontested herbivores are good? Yellowstone tried that by taking out the wolves, it just led to the elk and bison destroying the ecosystem. When they reintroduced the wolves it returned to normal. Why is it okay when wolves hunt that help conservation but not humans?
>>18240314The idea that elephants cause the desert to advance is inaccurate; in reality, elephants play a crucial role as"ecosystem engineers" and "climate heroes" that maintain and promote healthy, biodiverse environments, including arid regions. Far from causing desertification, elephants perform several key functions that support life and even increase carbon capture in various biomes: Water Access In desert and arid regions (like Namibia and Mali), elephants use their feet and trunks to dig wells in dry riverbeds to access groundwater. These "elephant wells" become vital water sources for numerous other species, such as springboks, jackals, and baboons. Seed Dispersal Elephants consume large amounts of vegetation and effectively transport seeds over long distances in their digestive tracts. Their dung provides a nutrient-rich, ideal environment for these seeds to germinate and grow, allowing plants to colonize new areas and create new habitats. Habitat Modification By trampling vegetation and breaking up thorny bushes, elephants create clearings and pathways. In forests, this allows more light to reach the forest floor, promoting plant biodiversity. In savannas, they help maintain open plains, preventing them from being overrun by dense bush and supporting a variety of species that thrive in that environment. Carbon Sequestration In African forests, elephants clear out smaller, low-carbon density trees, which reduces competition for water and light. This process enables larger, slower-growing trees with denser wood to thrive, which in turn significantly increases the forest's capacity to absorb and store more CO2. The misconception likely stems from their significant impact on vegetation in the short term, but these actions are essential for long-term ecosystem health and resilience, not desert expansion.
>>18240335>Male elephants are a vital part of elephants social structures and the transfer of knowledge between the older and younger members of an elephant pod.Male Humans are also "a vital part of human social structures and the transfer of knowledge between the older and younger members of a human society" but somehow we all manage to pull through when Grandpa Willy falls off a ladder
>>18240894>Why is it okay when wolves hunt that help conservation but not humansI think you already know the answer to this>>18240955Did you shoot grandpa willy?
>>18240314Funny how Africans know this but /pol/ with dates can't or refuses to know. Very curious.
>>18240233infant mortality rate is also negligible as long as women continue pumping children out
>>18241094>I think you already know the answer to thisGo ahead and say it for the class anyway.
>>18240295Absolutely, population control is a key aspect of conservation. The problem is that 99% of environmentalists are left-wing retards who think that Captain Planet is a reputable source of information. Actual conservation requires the occasional culling to maintain balance of the ecosystem.You can even see this with trees, where the blanket ban on cutting any of them down in results in destruction of the ecosystem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZDol3pHkMI
>>18242139You are speaking of two radically different areas.
>>18242139That video is about preventing natural forest fires. >>18240867edgy.
>>18242124Conservation always includes culling. Do you shun your T-cells? The presentation of the corpse of the once sentient and emotional being, betrays a pleasure taken in his death. people may find the attitude itself distasteful despite any actual benefits to the greater whole of nature, or even yourself, save for just a taxidermied elephant head over your fireplace, or something.
>>18242159Same principle. Forest fires served as a means of naturally culling weeds and invasive species. When we stopped forest fires, it allowed more aggressive species of trees to outcompete the old growth ones or in essence, death by overpopulation.>>18240867True
>>18240233Conservationfags support regulated hunting, which generates money to preserve wild animals and more so, preserve wild areas for those wild animals to live.Environmentalistfags oppose hunting, thus encouraging poaching as well as the loss of wild areas.
>>18242169Yes, there are tons of papers about this specially some egregious cases like Southern california
