From an evolutionary standpoint, with enough time and enough opportunities in favorable conditions, life could create itself spontaneously. Why is it then so unimaginable, that with enough time and opportunities, a human female might self-conceive? The main difference being that parthenogenesis has been observed in living organisms, while abiotic origin of life is complete conjecture, aka fantasy. An educated one, but still a fantasy, or just another Gaia Parthenos religion.
>>18240924>From an evolutionary standpoint, with enough time and enough opportunities in favorable conditions, life could create itself spontaneously.
>>18240924>one thing happened given enough time>why can't other thing happen then given even more timeshit argumentAn embryo is diploid. How would an unfertilized (haploid) human egg receive a full complement of genetic material? two eggs are just going to fuse together? and then how does the now diploid egg know to begin mitosis. You have to provide a mechanism for your hypothesis, not just claim that "god did it lol"
>>18240937Abiogenesis is almost solved. You guys dont seem to understand how far the field is and how much is known already.
>>18240996So its true that Jesus is his own father. Wow. The biible is right again. This is amazing.
>Abiogenesis is almost solved.Great, citation still needed.>>18240999I think he's arguing for the opposite, anon.
>>18240924>From an evolutionary standpoint, with enough time and enough opportunities in favorable conditions, life could create itself spontaneously?Say this to the /sci/ crowd and you'll be laughed out of the room. Abiogenesis does not come from emptiness; it comes from conditions. There are more than two models, but for the sake of simplicity, let's say there are two:1. Panspermia: Conditions and materials that caused life came from outside the Earth.2. Electricity: A unique electrical event caused materials that caused life.Therefore, life is not "spontaneous"; it has preconditions and requirements.
>>18240999Anon, abiogenesis is not a religious concept. You are so uneducated that I think you're trolling at this point.
wow, just more fairy tales.
>>18240996Abiogenesis did not occur on Earth, it probably only occurred once or twice in the entire universe and we descend from alien microbes. The odds of life self-assembling are so vanishingly rare, otherwise life would be everywhere. The same logic applies to OP. Virgin births are either impossible or so vanishingly rare they have never occurred. The odds of one Jew being born from it are statistically nil.
>>18240996abiogenesis is a fairytale. I'm sorry anon, but you'll have to grow up today.
>>18240996its not almost solved, infact it requires exclusively synthetic materials and conditions to occurI worked as a research intern in the AU lab that pulled it off 4 years ago.
>>18241107Your religious creation mythology is the actual fairytale, bud. >>18241112It quite literally is almost solved, and will be complete within 10 years.
>>18241117I'm not christian, but you are gaian
>>18241117>It quite literally is almost solved, and will be complete within 10 years.I first heard this 40 years ago. you'll be the same as me then
>>18240924Because it would not been in a Jew, nature is not that unaesthetic.
>>18240924Humans are advance beings who require the mix up genetic material ie crossing over in meiosis for a generically supreme offspring. Parthenogenesis would simply lead to infertile slaves. Do you want that, Anon? This is something only a Nazi could have imagined; creating slaves by parthenogenesis who'd die in their 30s.
>>18240924>From an evolutionary standpoint, with enough time and enough opportunities in favorable conditions, life could create itself spontaneously.source?
>>18240996>almostso not solved?
>>18241225See >>18240996
>>18241117There is as much truth to divine creationism as there is to your random conditions creationism, which is funny because you seethe and dilate
>>18240924>>18240996>>18240999>>18241052>>18241053>>18241099>>18241107>>18241125The only way a woman could do a virgin birth, using ante-modern medicine methods, is artificial insemination. Only that – instead of intrauterine tuboperitoneal insemination (direct intraperitoneal insemination), in vitro, and others – it can be done realistically by two methods in simple formulas: A) The man ejaculates outside, into the vagina, without breaking nor perforating the hymen OR B) The woman collects the semen with her hand and – presuming she can do it – insert it herself into her vagina as much or as deep she can without affecting the hymen. I think, these are realistically the only two options. A third potential option; the woman inserting a funnel (think of bottle funnels) into her vagina without ripping her hymen, the man ejaculates into the funnel & the semen pouring in. If insemination is successful, she gives a virgin birth.>>18240966>An embryo is diploid. How would an unfertilized (haploid) human egg receive a full complement of genetic material? two eggs are just going to fuse together? and then how does the now diploid egg know to begin mitosis. You have to provide a mechanism for your hypothesis, not just claim that "god did it lol"The only way for abiogenesis to hypothetically work, is for two ovums or more to collide. A secondary hypothesis, colliding two or more ovums that are foreign to each other. At this, it's more than certain they tested it and produced no results.
>arguing for the oppositeIt doesn't matter what his intention was. He is still proving the bible correct.>>18241053>abiogenesis is not a religious conceptThat's what you think:I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful>your trolling.Not exactly, but you're getting warmer.
>>18240924>life could create itself I wish you retards would keep your retarded retardation like this to yourselves.
>>18242653Hydrothermal vents and shallow pools are just life factories
>>18242689'create itself' is meaningless bullshit meant to create in the mind of the religiotard the impression that abiogenesis is itself some meaningless bullshit. life appears when the circumstances are right, it does not 'create itself'.
>>18242700So its true that the creator is eternal. Wow. The biible is right again. This is amazing.
>>18242764Are you retarded
>>18242764That is not how abiogenesis works, you are more retarded than creationists and you are not even noticing that.Troll.
>>18241926>I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitfulholy shit take meds immediately, you can not even solve two step problems.
imagine grown men buying into abiotic slop, grim
>>18242848imagine being a grown man and not understanding basic chemistry, grim
>>18242853zero empirical evidence
>>18242857Wrong
>>18242861you are buying into zero evidence only to reinforce your existing worldview, you are no different than any other religious freak out there
>>18242828>>18242841>>18242843Not an argument. I accept your concession.
