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How did the U.S get a reputaton for being "conservative" in the late 1900s when evidence points contrarywise?

>Doesn't ban Lolita, despite Britain, France, most of Western Europe banning it
>Invents the most sexualized, loud, youth-forward genre of music to ever exist up to that point (rock and roll) and openly promotes it
>Spends billions of dollars trying to reverse ethnostates and turn them into civic liberal nations
>Home of Hollywood, which spurned cultural traditionalism

Basically the only conservative thing about 1900s America was legal segregation, but that was only in one region of the country, and it didn't last that long (Jim Crow started legally around the late 1880s/into the 1890s and ended by 1964). I guess Americans were more religious than Western Europeans, but that's largely only because two world wars soured Euros on religiosity. They remained way more conservative in most other ways. So how did America get this conservative reputation in the 1900s/early 2000s?
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Dumbass Yuros who get all of their information about America from TV, Movies, and Reddit. Any actual American knows that the idea that this country is in anyway still “Puritan” is a total joke.
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>>18241470
It's puritan in that if you poke wasps too much they chimp out and start murdering and justify it later
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>>18241475
God I wish they would do start doing that again. Entire cities just need to go.
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>>18241457
In the early 20th century, the US was actually considered to be more libertine and deviant than old Europe, which was still dominated by old aristocracies and autocracies, only for said old Europe died in the world wars and reformed into various flavors of Communism/Social Democracy/Christian Democracy.
Meanwhile the Reagan revolution made American Conservatism the dominant ideology for decades in Economic and Foreign Policy thinking, and so, they had a different mentality than most European countries in several aspects, which was most seen during the Iraq war debacle where said reputation was cemented.
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>>18241470
The 1st English speaking colony was in Virginia, and was founded solely as a business venture. The U.S was never "Puritan" to begin with, Puritans made up a tiny, miniscule % of Colonial America and were only relevant in Massachusetts. Even the first Thanksgiving happened in Virginia, not Mass.

The idea that the U.S was ever "Puritan" is retarded, and only retards believe it. It largely comes from New Shitlanders aggrandizing their disgusting backwater and pretending that Virginia/Pennsylvania weren't the deciding cultural colonies of the U.S.
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>>18241457
I honestly think its because of larping. Americans love larping
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>>18241484
Sure, in the early 20th century, but by the 1970s/80s people viewed America as conservative. I mean all things considered, Reagan wasn't even that conservative, he was a liberal, but he barely pushed anything conservative other than being against drugs.
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>>18241457
>>Invents the most sexualized, loud, youth-forward genre of music to ever exist up to that point (rock and roll) and openly promotes it
It also invented and openly promoted gospel music
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rock'n roll is worst music? that's rubishes. rap! rock is good music, I don't know how is in America, but in Poland someone priests play rock'n roll about gospel
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>>18241632
Conservatism in the mid-late 20th century primarely was understood as an economic/fiscal movement in opposition to New Deal Liberalism, advocating for a smaller government and deregulation and for private/religious charities to take up the place of the welfare state, calling back to the laisse fairez era of the roaring 20s. While the Christian Right was a notable part of said movement, it was simply one of the many blocks allied with the Fiscal Conservatives and Cold War Hawks under the idea of Fusionism.
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>>18241457
It's a 21st century development, and since we're already quarter of a century into it, it's sort of here to 'stay'.
It largely stems from George Dubya Bush and the whole early 2000s Iraq War, jingoistic Republican shit + the Superbowl Nipplegate (genuinely, Europeans seem to remember this more than any American, I've seen them being it up all the time whenever prudishness is discussed) + Religiousity dying in Europe while it retains political power in the US.
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>>18241540
LARPing is supposed to prevent the need for the actual action but kikes figured this one out early on.
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>>18241457
>Americans actually care about free expression, a key founding principle predating independence
>Americans wanted to fight communism through their founding principles of liberty and self determination
What you're saying is that America has strong principles which it stands by throughout the ages. I cannot think of anything more conservative.
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>>18241457
I didnt know that the Beatles and Led Zeppelin were American, you shitskin pakistani RETARD.
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>>18241483
Agreed!
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>>18241540
Its called mythological thinking, eurotard



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