The Roman empire fell because they failed to be empathetic to the migrating Gothic tribes pushed out of their own lands by the Huns.

>>18242567
>submission
To christ.
>fear
Of god.
>poverty
Yet rich in spirit
>meekness
Merciful*
>anonymity
Humble*
>shame
Having standards and virtue*
>forgiveness
A virtue
>martyr
Glory
>castration
Of sin.

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This is what I think I value now.

>>18242582
this was the cause of the event but the effect of the event rather was them having been unable to defeat the gothics

>>18242567
Obviously not
there's no fact of the matter to "Christian values"
Christianity can be whatever the fuck you want

>>18242567
Yes

>>18242567
Christians are told to turn the other cheek and love your enemy, so basically they are like doormats who let evil people walk all over them. If everyone was a real Christian, we'd all just stand there smiling while bad guys rob us, hurt us, and take over because fighting back or defending yourself is a sin. It is a religion for weak people who want to lose. Jesus died instead of fighting, so the whole point is to lose on purpose. That's why strong societies never stay Christian for long... They'd get destroyed by anyone with a spine.

>>18242589
>To christ.
Aka a crucified Rabbi
>Of god.
Your god isn't real
>Yet rich in spirit
Following a sham isn't "rich in spirit"
>Merciful
Aka sign of weakness and cuckery
>Humble*
Aka sign of weakness and cuckery
>Having standards and virtue*
A slave morality isn't virtue
>Glory
There is no glory in allowing yourself to be killed
>Of sin.
The natural order of things is not sinful

>>18243144
Seethe

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>>18242567