Disraeli > Gladstone He was right on Ireland. He predicted that Home Rule would eventually lead to the disintegration of the Empire as seen later in the 20th century. Gladstone's obsession with the Irish question would poison British politics for 3 decades and his "humane concerns" for Ireland only emboldened their needless revolutionary rhetoric. Just see how the Disestablishment of the Church of Ireland didn't, in fact, made the Irish more pro-British.
>>18242736For 3 decades until WW1*....and the rest is history
>>18242736Disraeli looked like a goblin
>>18242736Careful the autistic pro-Ireland anon will be summoned soon
>>18242736Literally should've just done Land Reform and Ireland would still be in the UK today. Peasantry literally just want to own their own land, that's all they ever fucking wanted, but the ruling class are always too short sighted to figure that out
>>18242837Simple, yet accurate take.
>>18242837There was land reform. The land commission began in the 1881 and land was being redistributed from then.
>>18242837Isn't that communism
>>18242736Yes and no, Home Rule itself wasn't the problem; letting Home Rule rot for several decades then siding with the Ulster Unionists in the crisis is what caused the problems.No Ulster Unionist mobilisation = highly unlikely Irish secession movement gets anywhere at all. Even in our timeline, the post-revolution government of Ireland was EXTREMELY pro-UK.>>18242837This too. What's crazier is that in the late 1700s this was basically handed to Britain on a platter by Grattan's Patriot movement. The gained the Constitution of 1782 which partially empowered the Irish Parliament to begin reforms to stabilise and cement the "Irish Nation" which they saw as something that'd always inevitably be linked somehow to Britain.When the more radical reformist stuff (but still NOT secessionist) came around such as "An Argument on behalf of the Catholics of Ireland" it was immediately enormous popular and its author (Tone) made direct reference to the "revolution of 1782." It was right there for the taking; an Irish Parliament ready and waiting for reform which would lock in the loyalty both many of the "Protestand Ascendancy" and of the Irish Catholics.But no, the aristocratic autists wanted to enjoy lauding over the majority of the population and that was that. Quite frankly the fact that any of Ireland seceded at all is a miracle, there were endless opportunties to prevent it. >>18242858The Land Reform of that period was packaged as an attempt to kill off Home Rule and was also a response to the various agrarian campaigns and agitation such as the most famous "Land War" in the 1870s. It is, in fairness, the closest Britain ever came to governing Ireland properly instead of running it into the ground.>tl;drTreat the Ulster Unionists like retarded wreckers instead of allies, reform the land, or empower and retain the Irish Parliament in the 18th Century.
Interestingly there was a point roughly midway through the Irish War of Independence where many British and Irish politcians (including Edward Carson) realised that they were essentially sailing smoothly toward Ireland at *worst* becoming a loyal and friendly dominion until it all got fucked up by the Ulster Crisis.They started appealing to people to just knock it all on the head and rollback politics to pre-Home Rule Crisis just to stop the highly avoidable path they found themselves on. But as soon as the 1918 Election happened it was over.
