He was a very cultured and humanist person who performed many acts of piety and charity, but he also ordered the torture and murder of thousands of christians when there was no justifiable reason to do so.
>>18243253Neither because Heaven and Hell don't exist.
>>18243253Christians were fucking assholes. They'd go around burning other people's temples, destroy other people's icons, kill other people's wisemen. And then cry like bitches when the other people retaliated.Christians love to portray themselves as just misunderstood worshippers who only want to pray in peace. But time and time again throughout history the Christians have afforded no such luxury to those that did not believe in their Jew god.Christians are vile liars, generally horrible people and deserved being fed to lions.
>>18243257if it exists
>>18243253>in heaven or hellneither, he is dead. those places are for the living
Could that persecution have been made up? Tertullian should've been alive for it but he doesn't seem to be aware of it.https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0301.htm>So far from that, we, on the contrary, bring before you one who was their protector, as you will see by examining the letters of Marcus Aurelius, that most grave of emperors, in which he bears his testimony that that Germanic drought was removed by the rains obtained through the prayers of the Christians who chanced to be fighting under him. And as he did not by public law remove from Christians their legal disabilities, yet in another way he put them openly aside, even adding a sentence of condemnation, and that of greater severity, against their accusers.
>>18243271This, the Christians will tell you that they were persecuted, but never tell you why.>>>18237929
>>18243253The Catholic answer is: "We don't know".He was not canonized, so we can't say for certain he is in heaven. But we can never say someone is definitely in hell, even Judas Iscariot.
>>18243253Everyone goes to Heaven. Jesus died for all.
>>18243253Hell, 100%. His acts are irrelevant; He didn't believe in Jesus.>>18243257>>18243271>>18243290>>18243318>>18243336>>18243337Enjoy Hell.
>>18243345Christcucks screech about hell like autistic retards flailing in a padded room, convinced their imaginary torture pit means anything to people with a functioning brain. “You’ll burn forever!” they whine, like a seething school shooter fantasizing about revenge on everyone who laughed at them. It’s the ultimate cope—a limp-dicked, powerless faggot’s way of pretending he has some cosmic authority when in reality, he’s just another pathetic wage slave rotting in mediocrity. They can’t win arguments, they can’t defend their beliefs, they can’t even convert people—all they can do is shriek about some cartoon-tier afterlife that exists only in their broken, servile minds. Hell isn’t real, but their desperation sure as fuck is.Nobody fears their inbred retard cult’s punishment fantasy because nobody outside their incest-ridden trailer park takes it seriously. The idea that some divine Jew-on-a-stick is going to tantrum and throw people into a fire pit for eternity like a cosmic toddler proves Christianity isn’t a religion, it’s a fucking mental illness. If hell was real, they wouldn’t need to spam their empty threats like a battered housewife trying to convince herself her husband still loves her. But they do, because deep down, even they know they got played. That’s why they repeat the same retarded script—not because they believe it, but because they’re too fucking weak to face the fact that they’ve wasted their entire lives kneeling to an imaginary sky kike who isn’t coming to save them.
>>18243253>he also ordered the torture and murder of thousands of christians when there was no justifiable reason to do soFor sure heaven for doing that. Also, I don't believe for a second that they were all innocent. In Rome, Christians broke all sorts of laws.
>>18243253Marcus Aurelius and Hadrian's boytoy are in hell. Trajan and Nerva in Purgatory. Antoninus Pius in Heaven. Hadrian is on oblivion.Source: how cringe the fanbases of these people are. Antoninus Pius is solely in heaven because Hadrian's fanbase is so cringe it managed to put him in Heaven.
>>18243336I never understood why Judas would be in Hell. He helped do the best thing ever for your religion.
>>18243898He didn't believe in Jesus.
>>18243904yhwh forgave people for worse, by doing less than achieving the ultimate plan.
>>18243913No, he didn't. Without faith in Jesus there is NO forgiveness. Enjoy Hell.
>>18243922>christcuk never reads his bookhttps://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Samuel%2012%3A13&version=NRSVUE"David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” Nathan said to David, “Now the Lord has put away your sin; you shall not die."You can also get sin forgiveness without blood, as there was a flour sacrifice too. Jesus wasn't necessary.
>>18243928Those flames just got hotter. Care to keep going? :D
>>18243930>christcuk seething that he doesn't know his bookhttps://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%205%3A11-13&version=NRSVUE"But if you cannot afford two turtledoves or two pigeons, you shall bring as your offering for the sin that you have committed one-tenth of an ephah of choice flour for a purification offering; you shall not put oil on it or lay frankincense on it, for it is a purification offering. You shall bring it to the priest, and the priest shall scoop up a handful of it as its memorial portion and turn this into smoke on the altar, with the offerings by fire[a] to the Lord; it is a purification offering. Thus the priest shall make atonement on your behalf for whichever of these sins you have committed, and you shall be forgiven. As with the grain offering, the rest shall be for the priest.”Why do you hate god's word?
>>18243939Those flames just got hotter. Care to keep going? :DD
I guess now we know the true cause of climate change...
>>18243253Elysium