>wins civil war>immediately ethnically replaces themselves >realizes this by the 1910s, freaks out, tries to stop it with 1924 immigration law>its too late, the north is now a slav-kraut-scandi-wop mutt abominationI guess the Confederates got the last laugh.
>>18244089>south is poor white Hicks outside of major citiesI guess living like serfs means you got the last laugh
>>18244094as opposed to the poor white hicks of iowa?
>>18244089>OP pretending he's not more butthurt about 19th century immigration to the US than 90% of old stock northerners are
>>18244101>90% of old stock northerners90% of old stock northerners is about ten people totalits just an objective fact that old stock northerners freaked out about it in the 1920s, that's why so many immigration restrictions and national quotas were passed
>>18244089my ancestors came to the US during this period :)
>>18244106you will NEVER be americansorryyou can be canadian should you want though
I've often thought it must be strange to have no authentic connection to the land you live in, but also have no authentic connection to the lands your nonna or whatever says you're from. The whole hyphenated phenomenon that Americans/Canadians do is proof that mass immigration results in mental illness among diaspora descendants.
>>18244104>90% of old stock northerners is about ten people totalno>its just an objective fact that old stock northerners freaked out about it in the 1920s, and here you are in the *2020s* being butthurt about it while northerners moved on.
>>18244108American is not a race.
>>18244119yesnortherners moved on because old stock northerners literally do not exist anymore
>>18244089but multiethnic urban enclaves were cool when they were european... besides, the world wars whipped our ancestors into shape anyway
>>18244125american is an ethnicity.race =/= ethnicity.british and dutch are the same race but different ethnicities.race is a larger concept. unless youre using it in a really antiquated classical way.
>>18244128"guys weren't those multi-ethnic ghettos where random turks and south slavic abominations and mentally ill krauts all ran around shitting in the streets and refusing to speak english? wow so great."yeah no. they were hell on earth, 19th century urban northern cities were disgusting dens of corruption and disease and ethnic warfare and even urbanists back then recognized it, that was partly what led to the progressive movement (which pushed urban reform and forced assimilation into anglo-american identity)
>>18244133you wouldn't get soul if it slapped you across the facealso i notice neither you nor op has mentioned a certain (((clover)))
>>18244130ok, America is not an ethnicity
>>18244089The Confederates had no plans on getting rid of the blacks, Lincoln however did. Unfortunately the rednecks shot him and thus condemned themselves to be infested with blacks to this day.
>>18244149There is. They're genetically Englishmen mixed with Scots-Irish for the most part, but still consider their ethnicity American. If strong genetic difference is a requirement for an ethnicity, a massive amount of ethnic groups won't make the cut. Ethnicity is more of a cultural identification than not.
>I guess the Confederates got the last laugh.Youre just now realizing this?
>>18244089>slav-kraut-scandi-wopAs opposed to the south which is black-spic-irish-inbred
>>18244149Yes it is but you wouldn't get it. By the way, you aren't Irish, or German, or Polish, or whatever else your retarded 23andMe grandma told you and you aren't American either. What's it like to literally have no ethnicity or identity?>>18244139None of that was soul. All the soul in America came from the old stock.>>18244186>yap yap yap yapyou will never be american o'reilly malenzki schitterbum
>>18244089WASP's can't breeed. They should have accepeted more wogs and slavs, Who cares about muttifaction. Europe is a mutt continent.
>>18244089We're not laughing about it though. We're the ones stuck having to deal with the subhumans they let in.
>be retarded OP>obsess about race to distract himself from the deficiencies in his life>make the single most retarded posts on this websitewhen do you think this douchebag finally kills himself and stops polluting /his/ with this garbage
Krauts have been an integral part of America since the colonial era, just like the Dutch. They were far better than the Irish gaels or Italians and there’s really no difference between a half English half Scottish American and a half English half German American. They’re totally assimilated. I don’t understand the hate.Inb4 you’re part krautI’m not.
>>18244098per cap fag
>>18244089Everyone lost in the end desu. The WASP North has faded into history and the South got buckbroken. In hindsight, I think the South should've just tried to bear four years of Lincoln and done their best in 1864. Realistically, they could've divided the North with the help of the Irish vote and things like that. Lincoln didn't even crack 40% in 1860, not all was lost but the South just chimped out.
>>18245034Seething
>>18244089>kraut-scandiIt was like this from 1820 onward.Germans were the first settlers en masse across Appalachia btw, they are more American than most Angolems.48er immigration was not even 5% of the German population in America.Do not be gaslit, America is a German country, Poles and jews will seethe because Germans called them apes then proved it on the battlefield.
>>18244210You are unbelievably retarded, goddamn
>>18244186>>18245008>>18245121I'm part irish, mexican, and italian. I'm the most worthy man of reperations for all the hate my people get.
>>18244089It is funny how they are fucked to this day and people are immigrating to the south
>>18245574more like most worthy of a deportation or imprisoning
>>18245552Scots Irish dwarfed the German migrants over the Appalachians. America is actually a Scots Irish (and therefore Scottish) country.
>>18244162you are retarded. the proper term would be ethnically English mixed with scots-irish. American as an ethnicity doesn't exist. A Nationality yes, a predominantly European one, yes, and it should remain so. So at least for the next few hundred years American is not an ethnicity.
>>18245677This is what I mean. I come from a lineage of nuclear powerplant engineers, buddy. And this is how 300 pound inbred bill from north dakota speaks about my people.
>>18245731"your people" overwhelmingly elected FDR 2 and 3 which basically ruined the US. If you're one of the gypsies that came over here illegally you're not an american at all
>>18244089By the Civil War the Union was already a third foreign born.And those who were born in the North, most of them were born from non-americans. Having came over from the early 1800s.Even those who had been living here 'ancestrally' most of them came over during the 1700s. So under a century by the civil war.There was no ethnicity to replace, America never had one ethnicity.Even when this country was founded there were Dutch New Yorkers, a mix of Scottish and Irish in the Appalachian mountains, Germans in Pennsylvania, and Swedes in Delaware.The only reason why the southern whites stayed more ethnically 'pure' (They did fuck their slaves a lot, so they were actually less white if that's what you care about) was because the south was such a shit hole no one really moved there
>>18245945The fact is, the north went from majority Protestant WASPs to an amalgamation of everything but.
>>18244089>slav-kraut-scandi-wop mix>not even mentioning micksYou're not from the northeast, are you?
>>18244112Projection: the post.
>>18245552Americans as a whole are like 70% "broadly British" and 30% other Europeans. People overstate the impact of Germans especially on the USA's ethnic composition, maybe because people tend to be more aware of a non-British ancestry.
>>18245708Many Americans self-report their ethnicity as American, making that an ethnicity. Once again, ethnicity is just a cultural term, otherwise most ethnicities would have to either be subdivided further and/or completely removed.
>>18244104Retard alert
>>18244089Largest Self-Reported Ancestry Group is a meme. Firstly because most maps aren’t breaking it down by race, so it includes self-reported ancestry of non-whites, which skews the demographics. Even then, on self-reported ancestry maps that only include whites, a lot of people don’t identify with their heritage, only the most recent ancestry group that they have admixture from. You can look at maps from over the decades and see a massive rise in self-reported English ancestry with people due to discovering their heritage. For a long time, many people would actually identify with their least significant group that they had heritage from, because these groups were in the periphery of white American society, and thus colored their life and identity more.I found out through tracing my lineage and DNA testing that I am overwhelmingly British, and most of my ancestry outside of that is from Northern and Western Europe, but as a child I identified as “Italian and Polish” despite my Anglo last name, because most Americans don’t think about this. I am barely Polish at all, with only one of my great-grandparents’ grandparents having any Polish ancestry, and I am one fifth Italian. Anyways, here’s the most accurate map I could find of ACTUAL most common ancestry specifically among white Americans. People don’t realize just how English America is. Another fun fact, if you look at self-reported ancestry maps from 2010 to 2020, you’ll see all of Central Michigan change from German to English, which I can only attribute to the MASSIVE rise in interest of one’s ancestry amongst white Americans with the popularity of DNA tests and inline genealogy websites.
>>18245552>America is a German country,one that doesn't even speak German? LMAO the average Yank can't even pronounce -ch or God forbid umlauts like ü and ö. Calling yourself German without speaking German is literally the same level of absurd as calling yourself a Formula 1 Driver without actually driving any car
>>18244089>>18246164Here’s an example of what I mean. I’ve put two maps together here, unlike the first map I posted, these are both self-reported maps, this shows the largest self-reported ancestry groups of white Americans, 2010 vs 2020. As I mentioned before, the common trend among whites in America was to identify with their most unique, recent, or unassimilable ancestral group, until the advent of mass-DNA testing and genealogy websites. You can see just how drastically even self-reported ancestry changed in only a decade, and it’s not like we got millions of English immigrants to change the data so significantly. It’s still not as accurate as data compiled from studies as opposed to self-reported ethnic heritage, but it helps paint a picture.
>>18246169Why do you guys get so bent out of shape by this? They’re talking about their ethnic heritage. They’re not saying they’re literally from the country of Germany. It’s clearly a culinary disconnect. You Europeans live in a nation-state defined by ethnicity, while Americans live in a civilization state, where white Americans blend together over time. When people say they’re German, Irish, Dutch, and so in, they’re talking about their heritage, their ethnicity. It’s a strange thing to get upset by. When a Turk in Germany calls himself a Turk, even if he doesn’t know a word of Turkish and has never been, while only speaking German, do you call him stupid and insist he is a German? Afro-Caribbean people in the UK still call themselves Jamaican, because their heritage is Jamaican and that’s where their family came from. As I always say, Nigerians did not become 6-foot-tall, blonde-haired, blue eyed Anglo-Saxons when the first Brits that arrived on their shores taught them English, and the Afrikaners in South Africa who descend from Dutch, English, German, Irish, Swedish, and French settlers didn’t magically turn unto Khoisan or Bantu people when the first generation of them were born on African soil.It seems incredibly obtuse to act like you don’t know what they mean. When they say “I’m German” they’re obviously talking about their heritage, as would be evident by their accent and place of birth, and the fact that they don’t speak German, as opposed to meaning that they’re a German citizen or born in Germany.The only charitable interpretation I can give of this behavior is that the disconnect that separates you from us comes from English being a second language, and so you don’t know that English speakers shorten their speech and don’t specify when speaking to someone in a friendly manner because the context is inferred.
>>18246169>>18246186That’s why they say “I’m German” instead of “my ancestors were from Germany and immigrated to the United States of America and therefore I am of German heritage”. Oh, and by the way, I just wanted to add that I’m not the guy you were replying to, I just wanted to clear things up for you.
>>18246186>When a Turk in Germany calls himself a Turk, even if he doesn’t know a word of Turkish and has never been, while only speaking German, do you call him stupid and insist he is a German?Yes actually, if you actually live in Germany and talk to young Germans you'd have known that. We all laugh at retards being Turkish nationalists explicitly because we know it's utterly ridiculous to be patriotic for a country you're not from and are foreign to.Your heritage is irrelevant, Americans always forget that immigration happens between Europeans as well. Do you know how many NSDAP officials had Polish and other Slavic surnames? Do you think any of them ever fucking Said "Im Polish!"? Obviously not. You can literally look at a list of random French Generals and see German names like Koenig, Eifel and Hutzinger there yet none of them would ever utter such absurdity as saying "I'm German :)" even if their ancestor was a Kraut, because nobody fucking cares about your great grandpa. Nobody in Europe is actually purely anything, unless they're literally inbred like Icelanders. Scottish and Flemish names exist in Sweden, Spanish names in Italy, and like half of Austria's population probably has a Slovenian or Slovak or Czech surname.
>>18244089>slav, scandi, german, etcand what is that bad? all are good and high iq races
>>18246196The difference is that Turks are not white (some are, but most are not).
>>18246196To be entirely fair, Anon, it wasn't that important over the last 300 years or so until just recently. We're about to hit the tail end of selection pressure and fight a fuckhuge war centered largely around ethnicity. First the cleansing of the slavs and Chinks, then Brown Deletus in the West now that they're no longer useful for undercutting wages during the rise of automation.If people were jockeying for positions two centuries ago and keenly aware that anyone not on top was going to end up dead or crushed beneath the heel of global minorities, they'd have cared a lot more back then too. Necessity is the mother of invention.
>>18246196Oh okay, you’re just a civnat who doesn’t acknowledge the existence of genetics and ethnicity. That’s what this dispute is about If you think an American named someone like Eoife Peters McEineineigahagagahagh-O’Harra that takes a DNA test that can specifically identify that their ancestors migrated from Leinster and North-Northwest Comnaught specifically isn’t allowed to say “I’m Irish” SPECIFICALLY IN REFERENCE to their HERITAGE and ETHNIC BACKGROUND but some Turk in Germany or a Jamaican in England is just as German or English respectively as the natives, you’re utterly delusional.
>>18246186cultural disconnect*
>>18246199Indeed, you can tell they're high IQ because these countries have universal healthcare and no school shootings. I hypothesize that all of their violent low IQ retards emigrated somewhere else and only the smart normal ones stayed.
>>18246201yeah but nobody cares when they start to intermarry and future generations are only "1/8 Turkish" or whatever and the only trace of their ancestry is a funny surname. They've only been in Germany for a few decades, but they'll dissolve and disappear eventually just like Huguenots in Prussia and Poles in the Rheinland did.
>>18246210I know this makes racist Yanks incredibly assblasted and seethe uncontrollably, but yeah sorry the fella who actually grew up alongside us and who we shared experiences with since childhood will always be more familiar to us than you foreign weirdos with strange customs and bizarre beliefs that are incomprehensible to us. DNA exists of course, but what's the DNA determining whether you're German when most Germans in the east have DNA similar to Poles and Germans in the southwest have DNA similar to the French? What about Austrians and Hungarians, who are often genetically identical despite being wholly different ethnicities? According to DNA tests, I'm supposed to be "kinsman" with Pawel Powlodowski, which is obvious nonsense when I can't even pronounce shit like pączki
>>18246196>born in a stable makes you a horse????
>>18246226There's about 15 times as many of them as you could actually assimilate that way. Barring just getting rid of them somehow the best case scenario for you is ending up like southern Italians where everyone is roughly 1/10th sand person.
Most southerners have some German ancestry as well btw. A ton of them came over in the early 18th century and plenty went down the great wagon road into Virginia and the Carolinas.
>>18246231>Horse born in a Studfarm isn't a horse because he's 1/8 Clydesdale and not 8/8 Arabian or whatever >>18246242Southern Italy still has lower crime rates than even the whitest US state and Italians are famously beautiful people with good taste and class, so that sounds alright
>>18246230>but yeah sorry the fella who actually grew up alongside us and who we shared experiences with since childhood will always be more familiar to us than you foreign weirdos with strange customs and bizarre beliefs that are incomprehensible to us. This only goes one direction though. The Pakis, Nigerians, Turks, and Jamaicans you grew up with always identify with their ethnic kinfolk over you.
>>18246250>shitlib identify friend/enemy challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)It never fails lol
>>18245765Don't know, don't care if my ancestors came in illegally. All I know is that my people were labor cattle for wasps and our hard work has gone unnoticed.
>>18245731>I come from a lineage of nuclear powerplant engineersMaybe the Irish part, but you haven’t done shit with your life, owing to the spic part I’m sure.
>>18245945Nobody much moved to the South because it didn't have any major port cities aside from New Orleans, which did attract a lot of immigration.
>>18244089>the problem is white peopleyou dropped this
>>18246701I'm a carpenter contractor, I guess I am owing up to the spic part of my blood. My guess is that you do some bullshit humanities job.
>>18246970>My guess is that you do some bullshit humanities job.You got me there. I’m a lawyer.
>>18244089Large numbers of irish and germans fought for the south, not to mention georgia's jewish population.You also think louisiana killed all 11 of it's extant italians and that was the end of it?
>>18246893American Jews are white and I'm tired of pretending that they're "ethnic" or "POC" or whatever.
>>18246186>Why do you guys get so bent out of shape by this? They’re talking about their ethnic heritage. They’re not saying they’re literally from the country of Germany.Because British is the largest ancestral group in america, not germans.America is a widely british nation with german ancestry dominating in the midwest
>>18247077They are west Asian
>>18246250This haha. Why do they think the "fellow Germans" always vote for parties that increase immigration? Where do they think that ends?
>>18245125I'd rather be poor in sunny georgia than poor in shithole siberia-tier michigan>>18244557>Europe is a mutt continent.fundamentally untrue since most european ethnicities are clearly distinguishable on pca
>>18244106how does it feel being an inhuman mutt piece of genetic trash who doesn't belong anywhere?
>>18245556you aren't even a person, you're wagecuck cattle spawn with no possible identity to speak of. you're an orphan born in a giant supermarket larping as a nation
>>18247116No, they're not. I'm tried of the Jews and their lies about how they're "Levantines" when they're actually Polish-Lithuanian mutts.
>>18247107Bullshit map just from the way it's showing italians as completely dominating NYS, most likely using numbers from the cities and ignoring halfsies.
>>18246246>genetically a horseThus a horse>genetically a Germanthus a Germansimple as
>>18244094I love how Indians think "hick" means an untouchable or something. They keep trying to comb English for some racial slur against white men and just make themselves look stupid every time.
>>18247071About a tenth of the Confederate Army was foreign, yes, and both navies had quite a lot of Irishmen in them. But after the war immigration to the South halted almost entirely, except in a few regions like the Texas Hill Country. Immigrants were everywhere in the antebellum South, but in the North it was simply on a completely different scale. It's hard to believe now, but the Negroes and the climate were seen as a genuine barrier to promoting immigration at the time.
>>18246196>Your heritage is irrelevantTotal globohomo take. Someone can be an American first but still appreciate their heritage and ancestors.
>>18247827Post-reconstruction they were bringing the italians in because they were supposedly better workers than the blacks. the aforementioned lynchings were in 1891.
>>18246688The funny thing about all the illegal immigration to the US is the fuckers have jobs lined up over here often by criminals back in their origin countries. That's how the mob got over into the US, they owned the people coming over. Italians worked under the padrone system which was wholly controlled by the mob. Irish similarly were organized by irish gangs originating in ireland
>>18247827>It's hard to believe now, but the Negroes and the climate were seen as a genuine barrier to promoting immigration at the time.>derf there's a scary black man in town help me /pol/was it that hard to not be racist, guys?
>>182440891910!?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hSEwy8ZORc
he's still mad he lost a war he fought for jews and his states are infested with blacks
KEK it's the kentucky nigger
