Historical materialists/marxists then:>">"In any historical situation, we will study the socioeconomics of their society/age and find the proper way to promote the Revolution in favor of the working classes"Historical materialists/marxists now:>"In any historical situation, we will cheer and support for whoever faction involved is browner than the others. Oh they are zealout bigots that loved slavery and human sacrifices? Who cares, they are still brown."Historically speaking, what caused this bizzare shift?
>>18244355Brownoids being the underlings everywhere you go causes this.
>>18244355Not sure how the AKs are going to help them against smallpox.
the left was subverted pretty badly in the post-war period by alphabet agencies
>>18244355The Spanish were not superior to the Aztecs. The Aztecs engaged in wars of conquest and enslaved and killed people just like the Spanish and every other empire did. Killing people does not magically become worse just because you perform a fancy religious ritual when you do it.
>>18244355It might seem bizarre at first, but it makes sense as a natural evolution of what happened during the Cold War. The Soviet Union expanded its influence by equipping the brown shithole colonies of western colonial powers with weapons and ideological organization to fight against them. Obviously their brownness was not the concern at the time, but considering the fact that most of these places were brown, it tracks that commies would associate brownness with le poor oppressed people in need of le revolution against evil whitey... because they are simpleton retards and genuinely can't understand any grander context than that.
>>18244355It's really in weird when the brown person is actually rich or even nobility.
>>18244355Online communists are not communists they're just weirdo LARPers with authoritarian tendencies
>>18244355Bro you been sleeping? You sleepy? 11/10 "communism" has just been anti-imperialism in practice bruh. How could it not take that turn and wtf you doin on the history board if you don't know this? You stoopid lil homie?LMAO. Where the proletariat revolutions? Happened 0 times no cap.Where the brown peasants revolting against imperialism colonialism and not really into the whole communist international thing?Literally ever time my man.So how tf could it not be this way???
>>18244355Class Marxism failed and they switched to race Marxism.
>>18244355Authentic socialist are coming around that Marx was wrong and the claims of equality isn't tenable with the discovery of genetics & neurology, leaving dysgenics to scrabble to justify hating the West for themselves.
>>18244355Shit I need to refresh on my wacky left wing lore, but essentially there was a branch of trotskyism that was essentially "we should accept that no nation will ever be perfectly socialist so long as non-socialist hegemony exists" that became essentially America Bad schizophrenia. This then had an incest baby with Maoism and it's "third world proletariat" idea, and it resulted in a populist ideology abstracted from both these lines of thought that is highly memetically competitive because basically any non-Western shill is going to try to push it endlessly.
>>18244355>be a marxist>literally the most based ideology about class struggle>some chud on /his/ says we just support whoever is browner>ignores that marxism analyzes material conditions>support vietnamese peasants against us imperialism because they're fighting for national liberation and socialism>NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE LE BROWN>support haitian revolution because it was a slave rebellion against capitalist plantation system>NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE LE BROWN>opposes modern neocolonialism because it's capitalist exploitation of the global south>NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE LE BROWNThe delusion is in YOUR HEAD, libtard. Read theory instead of making cringe strawmans. Marxism has always been anti-imperialist. You fell for bourgeois propaganda that reduces everything to identity to hide the real conflict: CLASS WARFARE.
>>18244355>Historically speaking, what caused this bizzare shift?The Frankfurt School>Anti-Soviet German Marxist try to cope during the interwar years as to why Marxist predictions didnt come true after the Great War>Move to America post WW2>see that the living conditions of the common worker are exploding>1950s economic boom affords working class homes, consumer goods, and a good middle class life>cope more and extend the net of "the working class" from these white americans to dirt poor brown people in third world countries>this gives rise to Third Worldism >this completely losses track of the original core concept of class and becomes a fully racial/ethnic conflict nowThis is why communism now is animated by anti white agitation. This is the real core of their belief and it explains all seeming contradictions like you brought up OP.Seriously, theres interviews with Weather Underground people from the 80s and 90s that really illuminate this. Working class white kids or college educated ones who joined in on this during the 1960s and they said they were seriously debating murdering all white children in America because they would all grow up to be racist fascist capitalist. NO ONE ever comes to be a marxist/communist/whatever far leftist through cold and sober observations of markets, this is such a cope. They cope to that state through bizarre emotional and conspiratorial insecurity complex reasons.
>>18244657communism is about being anti white anon. Thats why the white who are in on it have to castrate themselves and go through constant humiliation rituals.
>>18244675>cope more and extend the net of "the working class" from these white americans to dirt poor brown people in third world countries>this completely losses track of the original core concept of class and becomes a fully racial/ethnic conflict now>This is why communism now is animated by anti white agitation.It's wild how Spengler was right about all this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxP1g1Sy2QI
>>18244355the class angle failed, so they went for biology instead.https://spandrell.ch/2017/11/13/biological-leninism
>>18244435Yes but it's annoying how every online community gets infested by them. I will literally complain about some product or video game I like and immediately the commies spill in to tell me that it's the inevitable outcome of late stage capitalism o algo and MMO updates will stop sucking if we institute hecking wholesome communism like nigga I'm just trying to game you can have fun politically larping by yourself
>>18244657Name a single instance where you sided with whites over browns
It's funny because Marx used the word "nigger" to insult people he didn't like
>>18244657ah yes, the communists are anti-imperialist, like the soviet union
Communism has been intertwined with anti-racism and other gay shit since at least the 30’s.
>>18244355>what caused this bizzare shift?French post-modernism. Look at this googly-eyed pedo and convince me that there's a god.
>>18245229He looks like he wants to steal from me and fuck my children.
>>18244355Marxists have always been anti-imperialist. Historically, most of them have always supported anti-colonialism and racism, viewing them as product of capitalism>>18244675>>18244675>cope more and extend the net of "the working class" from these white americans to dirt poor brown people in third world countriesThat was Mao (and Lenin to an extent) retard.>this completely losses track of the original core concept of class and becomes a fully racial/ethnic conflict nowThird-worldism is the idea that contradictions in western societies have been avoided by delegating the worst to third world countries (like mining for lithium, sweatshops etc). It's never been about race wars topkek.>This is why communism now is animated by anti white agitationBurger take, probably explains why you're so obsessed by race. Communists in Europe are, for the most part, white boomers who worked in factory lines. It's the socdem parties that are """woke""".>they said they were seriously debating murdering all white children in AmericaYes, Marx wrote in Das Kapital that you actually had to sacrifice 50 gorrillion people before enabling communism to please the jews and moloch>NO ONE ever comes to be a marxist/communist/whatever far leftist through cold and sober observations of marketsJesus you people are so delusional it's insane. From all the things you said, this is probably the most wrong one
>>18244355No I'm pretty sure they always disliked colonialism. Also >>18244407
>>18244657>Marxism has always been anti-imperialistNot when marxist governments invaded other countries like the USSR with the Baltic cunts and PROC with TibetI bet you're gonna post some retarded wraparound argument that cultural genocide is heckin based and redpilled when communists do it
>>18244355Such a shift never happened. What did happen however, was that groups like the CIA heavily funded and supported certain anti-marxist "leftish" liberal movements like the Frankfurt School, and the western media under orders from them made sure to exclusively portray "leftism" to the public under this lens.
>>18245300well, he is French
>>18244657>capitalist plantation systemgenuinely retarded
>>18244355frankfurt school invented critical theory which is basically when you apply marxism to cultural identities like race and gender
>>18244657>Marxism has always been anti-imperialistmarx didnt say anything about imperialism, that was lenin and his internationalism that lead to third worldism
>>18245330NTA but your problem is that you are incapable of simply admitting that some cultures are worse than others. They will be less productive per unit of human effort. Conditions will be worse. You have to say that, for instance, Native Americans have poverty because of oppression rather than looking at how they spent their entire history in North America in impoverished tribes, whereas another culture came and was quickly even with the rest of the world.
>>18244355>communism is when gay niggers and no iphone
>>18244355no such thing as a "working class" exists any longer, and marxist class doctrine was always 19th century pseudo-science that looks embarrassing to a modern educated person.
>>18244407Everyone kills other men for riches, gold and land. Only a few culyures have needlessly murdered children to make corn grow or whatever depraved shit. Comparing the spanish killing people in war to the insane shit the aztecs did is ridiculous. Like comparing a wartime soldier to a serial killer who raped kids
>>18245211>>18244355Commie are racist too