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It’s weird how Manchus absolutely smashed Korean and Chinese armies that well-equipped with muskets and guns during their early conquest. Why was East Asian warfare still dominated by Calvary even as late as mid 1600s?
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Late Ming were hilariously corrupt. The officers and officials were embezzling probably half the money for themselves, the troops were starved peasants without any proper training. Ming troops would flee at the drop of a hat and any achievements rarely gained had to be shared with your peers and superiors because everyone was so bloody corrupt.
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East Asia would be a better place if Manchus form separate Jin khanate and annexed northern Korea instead invading deep into Ming
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>It’s weird how Manchus absolutely smashed Korean and Chinese armies that well-equipped with muskets and guns during their early conquest.
Jurchens had very high morale and a tolerance for extreme casulaties unlike Mongols, they were able to rout Ming chariot camps through sheer attrition(defenders running out of gunpowder), though they sometimes failed such as the Jisi incident. Jurchens differed from traditional nomads by the widespread implementation of war wagons, firearms and artillery leading to a firearm revolution.

>Why was East Asian warfare still dominated by Calvary even as late as mid 1600s?
A combination of factors made it that Late Ming horse reserves could not hope to match Later Jin/Eastern Mongol who had tens of thousands of cavalry who were able to outmanuever and isolate smaller Ming contingents. Massed arquebus fire is not enough to deter cavalry charges with their slow reload times.

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When it comes to small scale engagements there were plenty of Ming troops that could fight to the death and repel numerically superior Jurchen cavalry, Jurchens however simply kept charging until the enemy broke while later battles incoporated turncoat artillery. The Late Ming no longer had enough qualified personnel to lead and the lack of coordination between different armies led to disatrous results once cavalry routed such as the Battle of Hun River.
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War of Attrition
Answer is war of attrition between chinks, japs and gooks. They deserve the slowest and most painful death of all of them. The whole world wants to see them suffer excruciating torture as slow and gradual as possible.
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The Later Jin Manchu Army had Han defectors you retard.

Ming officer Li Yongfang defected and surrendered Fushun in 1618 to Nurhaci, in exchange for Nurhaci giving him one of Nurhaci's granddaughter as a concubine.

Ming generals and soldiers brought their cannons and guns to the "Manchu" side.

Han generals Shang Kexi and Geng Jimao and Kong Youde brought hongyi pao cannons to the "Manchus" and Shang and Geng families were given Manchu princesses as wives as well.



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