If Jesus claimed to be God (John 10:30) and God is the one described as impregnating the Virgin Mary (Matthew 1:18) then Jesus impregnated his own mother to give birth to himself in act of magical incest. Disgusting.
John doesn't have the virgin birth.
>>18245501>f Jesus claimed to be GodGod the Son.>and God is the one described as impregnating the Virgin MaryGod the Holy Spirit, and there was no sex involved.> then Jesus impregnated his own motherThe Son and the Holy Spirit are not the same person.
>>18245547Enjoy hell.
>>18245547So you're saying Jesus isn't God?
>>18245501>God is the one described as impregnating the Virgin MaryWhy hasn't he been able to recreate this again?
>>18245620Jesus is God the Son, not the Holy Spirit or the Father.
>>18245712So you worship three Gods?
>>18245760more than that. don't forget Guadalupe
>>18245768Gee, Bill, your Pope lets you have FOUR deities?!
>>18245501Incest ? ON EARTH?!?!?!
ITT: filtered by the mystery of the trinity
ITT: Christians one again attempt to gaslight people into thinking nonsense makes sense
The Holey Trinity>peepee>pussy>ButtholeKek this makes more sense than whatever tf you fags are arguing about
>>18245501> Virgin > Virgin> Virgin > Virgin> Virgin> Virgin > Virgin> Virgin > Virgin> VirginI'm still having to explain virgin birth doesn't involve sex to atheists. I once told a catholic Mary had other children. --Am I in purgatory? -----Is this my punishment?
>>18246834>Virgin birth doesn't involve sexImpregnating your mother is still incest even if it's by magic
>>18246869>Impregnating your mother is still incest even if it's by magicSee:>>18245547
>>18246878Leaning on the Trinity doesn't really work to justify it as you essentially have to argue, "Jesus is but isn't actually God"
>>18246892>Leaning on the Trinity doesn't really work to justify it"Justify" what? I'm not justifying your accusations of alledged incest, I'm debunking them.>as you essentially have to argue, "Jesus is but isn't actually God"Jesus is God the Son, who is a different person than God the Holy Spirit. Your accusation of divine incest is false since it's not the Son "impregnating" His own mother, but a different person entirely.
>>18246995>Jesus is God the Son, who is a different person than God the Holy Spirit. Your accusation of divine incest is false since it's not the Son "impregnating" His own mother, but a different person entirely.This only works if you admit to worshipping two distinct Gods, making you a polytheist and not actually a Christian
>>18247016>This only works if you admit to worshipping two distinct GodsThey're one in essence, not in personhood.
>>18247032If they're one in essence then Jesus's conception was the product of incest.
>>18247051You're also one in human essence with your father, since you're both human. That doesn't mean you're the product of incest.There, simple.
>>18247057So again you're worshipping two separate Gods.
>>18247080They're one in essence, not in personhood, an essence can't commit incest.
>>18247090You can't have it both ways. If they're one in essence then Jesus fucked his Mom to give birth to himself. If they're not one in essence, you're a polytheist.
>>18247096>If they're one in essence then Jesus fucked his Mom to give birth to himself.What do you think an essence is?
>>18247097If the intrinsic nature of God and Jesus are one and the same then that means God impregnating Mary is the same as Jesus impregnating Mary, you dolt. Learn what words mean before smugly asking others to define them for you.
>>18246070Calling retarded bullshit a "mystery" doesn't magically turn it into a profound revelation.
>>18247099>If the intrinsic nature of God and Jesus are one and the same-Well in that case, no, since Jesus has two natures, one human, one divine. This a core Christian belief.So no, it's not incest. What you're proclaiming is Monophysitism, and it's a heresy.
>>18247113What you're describing is Arianism and also considered a heresy
>>18247119Arianism is the doctrine that the Son is a created being and thus not enternal, it has nothing to do with Jesus' natures.God, you're a retard.Anyway, keep crying that you can't post troll threads about Jesus being the product of incest anymore. Retard.
>>18247057We're different being from our fathers not comparable. Either that trinitarian entity is a congeries of schizophrenic split identities of individuals united in essence and being, which still makes this incestuous, or they're different gods. Either way, you dug yourself into a conundrum.
>>18247127If you're arguing God the Father and God the Son are separate enough where the conception of Jesus wasn't incest, that's Arianism. All of your arguments have been self-defeating so far
>>18247131>We're different being from our fathersAnd so is the Father from the Son.
>>18247134So once again you're saying Jesus isn't God
>>18247133>If you're arguing God the Father and God the Son are separate enough where the conception of Jesus wasn't incest, that's Arianism.That the Son and the Father are two completely different persons is basic Trinitarianism 101.WHATARETARD
>>18247136See>>18247135Enjoy Hell for Arianism
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>>18247135I'm saying that Jesus isn't God the Father, yes, correct.>>18247139Arianism is about the Son's relationship with the Father. If I were to say that the Son is a created being and not co-equal and not co-eternal with the Father, then I would be an Arian, but I'm not saying either of those things, I'm stating the basic Trinitarian doctrine that the Father and the Son are two different persons, with the Son also adopting a human nature.
>>18245501are you 14
>>18247161>You quote mining me doesn't change the fact that a human father and his son are two separate beingsExactly as God the Father and God the Son. But also you're not completely separate from your father, your have half of his genes.Pretty incestious and gross if you ask me.
>>18247134You quote mining me doesn't change the fact that a human father and his son are two separate beings so either the Trinitarian are different gods or they're united in a single being as a chimera or schizophrenic being with multiple personalities disorder, either way that's still incest.
>>18247175>You quote mining me doesn't change the fact that a human father and his son are two separate beingsExactly as God the Father and God the Son. But also you're not completely separate from your father, your have half of his genes.Pretty incestious and gross if you ask me.
>>18247178So the Son and Father are different gods not a single chimera being with a multiple personality disorders? Got it. It's still incest either way if it's the later.
>>18247185>So the Son and Father are different gods not a single chimera being with a multiple personality disorders?Neither? The fuck?
>>18247200>The Trinitarian being claims to be the Son, Father and Holy Spirit at the same time or the other beings so that makes it a chimeraThat's partialism.>or an individual with multiple personalitiesThat's modalism.Why are you demanding me to subscribe to heresy? Away with them all.
>>18247189It is, though. At least that's what most Christians believe. The Trinitarian being claims to be the Son, Father, and Holy Spirit at the same time, so that makes it a chimera or an individual with multiple personalities, or it means that the other two are lesser than the Father, as in Arianism. Either way, it still makes it polytheism or a product of incest in immaculate conception.
>>18247212So they're all different beings, and yet you refuse to call it polytheism. Again, if you believe that they exist in a single being, then that's a chimeric existence, and if that being impregnated a woman to give birth to itself, that makes it incestuous.
>>18247241>So they're all different beingsWith the same essence.
>>18247248OK quote miner. Still within a single existence, so a chimera. An incestuous chimera.This is just a rehash of a previous rehash.
>>18246834You don't need sex when you do in vitro fertilization either
No sex happened so no incest happened while Muhammed had sex with a nine year old according to undeniable hadiths. Not that complicated.
>>18247722You should donate your sperm to your mom then for IVF if your daddy is not available. It doesn't count as incest without sex.
>>18247737That would be dysgenic but it wouldn't be incest according to the dictionary definition.
>>18245501You're not matching with the fine print. You need a verse for every single minute claim.
>>18247113Only after the incarnation, prior to that all three persons would have had the same nature
>>18245501Have fun burning!
>>18245609Heretic modalist detected, opinion ignored.
>>18247970Have fun walking through a park.
>>18248308More likely a Muslim or Jew. How many people even aware of what a modalist was or is?
Abusing children is a Semitic tradition, just like sister fucking, it dates back to Sumerians.Jews suck on newborn penis when they cut it and molest kids, put their pedophilia everywhere in mass media and movies.Catholic priests molest young altar boys.Muslims marry literal kids, rape boys and goats.But there will always be a fucking retard that will defend those degenerates.Also look up:>The Jewess Mary shows the Roman soldiers the half-eaten body of her child
its crazy how christians came up with all this nonsense about essences and 3 persons etc as copes for their bizarre theology and expect normal people to take it seriously. it literally sounds insane to everyone except them
>>18248427>its crazy how christians came up with all this nonsense about essences and 3 persons etc as copes for their bizarre theology and expect normal people to take it seriously. it literally sounds insane to everyone except themIt's in the Torah and Tanakh.The Angel of the Lord, the Holy Spirit and the consuming fire Moses encountered have different traits. And there are only three.