Who was more advanced in terms of production, statecraft, and cultural development, Aztecs or Tartars?
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>>18245742I will come them entirely
>>18245728Meshika statecraft relied on terrorizing their neighbors so much so that many allied with the strange foreigners (funny enough the Meshika were once wandering nomads before settling in the valley and actually became mercenaries for the other tribes to help topple the previous "top dog" of the valley, before becoming like that themselves). Meshika had a culture of flowers and blood, one might wonder how they would've developed had they forsaken their warlike nature and became more passive and focused on cultural pursuits. Tartar statecraft worked well for what it wanted to accomplish. Pay tribute to the Khan and you can thrive. I don't think they changed much of the preexisting institutions of whom they conquered as long as they paid and stayed out of trouble. Tartar production was obviously vaster than the Meshika but the Meshika did well in terms of production for what they needed. Both became culturally enriched in the lands that they ruled over, Meshika mainly taking upon the local customs and gods of the valley and obviously the Khans becoming culturally Chinese in one part of the empire, and Persian in another.
Stop spamming this thread and trying to start pissing contests>>18245857Cortes getting allies against the Mexica has little to do with them "terrorizing their neighbors". Tlaxcala resented the Mexica/Tenochtitlan since they were at war with the Mexica attempting to conquer them, but that's not a major applicable motive to the other states which allied with CortesThe Mexica were conquerors, but they mostly left existing kings, laws, and customs in place after conquering a state, which still retained their own political agency and ambitions. That enabled opportunistic side switching and defection as a method to gain or hold onto power, since they identified primarily as their own state still and still had the capacity to make their own choices, and if as a subject they mostly got left alone anyways, they had little to lose by pledging themselves to some other state to then work together to topple their existing capitals or rivals, to achieve a position of higher status within the new kingdom/empire they'd help prop upThat's what was mostly going on with Cortes, not that the Mexica were uniquely oppressive, or resentedSee pastebin.com/h18M28BR and arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/640670498/#640679139 and desuarchive.org/his/thread/16781148/#16781964 and desuarchive.org/k/thread/64434397/#64469714 + the two posts directly preceding that /k/ one in the thread and the other in thread posts I link to within it>became mercenaries for the other tribes to help topple the previous "top dog"They ceased to be "tribes" once they settled down and founded/became city-states. They were urbanized centers with formal governments. But otherwise this is roughly correct, and goes to show why what I said is too: The way Texcoco and Tlacopan allied with Tenochtitlan/the Mexica (and thereby getting positions of status within what became the "Aztec Empire") to overthrow Azcapotzalco is the same dynamic as states allying with Cortes, the Mexica were just the ones being overthrown that time
What I want is a full, proper explanation from the participants of this thread of what they value in historical cultures and how specifically either the Aztecs or Tartars live up to those values.
>>18245938>What I want is a full, proper explanation from the participants of this thread of what they value in historical cultures and how specifically either the Aztecs or Tartars live up to those values.Can't do that. Best I can do is unrestrained racism and baseless accusations of you being a homosexual.
>>18245728THE MEXICA; THE TARTARS LIVED IN HUTS, AND NEVER BUILT ANYTHING.
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>4th time this thread gets repostedi like how even the unfunny wannabe board celebrity tatar retard noticed that all the /his/ chuds have been on Aztec seethe mode for the past couple of months for some incomprehensible reason and is desperately to capitalize on it
