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You guys good?
What the fuck happened here?
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>>18245789
The Habsburg empire getting dangerously close to crushing the protestant reformation outside of Britain and Scandinavia and achieving continental hegemony over Europe. Before France stepped in to relieve them. Also genocide, a lot of religiously motivated genocide.
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>>18245789
Catholic France invaded a Catholic country and killed a bunch of Catholics for Catholic reasons
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>>18245789
It was a German-French war that gets phrased in terms of religion because France used a Protestant fifth column in Germany as justification to invade.
Basically it ended 700 years of HRE dominance in Europe and turned France into a great power
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>>18245789
The Austrian Habsburg Kaiser attempted to consolidate imperial power in the HRE via enforced counter reformation. The Protestants could not stand this and neither could other European powers like France. Sweden used the confusion to try their own power grab in the midst of the war. All the while Spanish Habsburg was waging war in the Netherlands and absolutely required open passage through the HRE to supply its Dutch holdings. In short, a shitshow.

The diplomatic complexity was many times more difficult than the current Ukraine war. The peace negotiations for the 30 Year War lasted like 6 years or so and had to be held in two cities simultaneously. The diplomatic proceedings required by rank, prestige and power that had to be formulated to even have these peace talks spawned the byzantine court structures of the Baroque.

There have been many books written on it. The Westphalian Peace is the name of that historic achievement.
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>>18245789
Protestant Sweden and Catholic France team up to invade the HRE. Like WW1 but even dumber
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>>18245888
>The city of west fallen is where the west is saved
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>>18245789
Christkike infighting destroying Europe yet again.
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>>18245789
The early modern war turn Brandenburg into Prussia
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Read this book. Basically a really mental part of the Reformation and Europe's history generally. France had its own version a bit earlier but the German one was off the scale. Almost like a world war. Gigantic armies roaming around consuming everything they find. Huge camps full of disease. All sorts of powers getting involved to support this power or that power. A general called Wallenstein rising up and almost becoming like a dictator. Really engrossing and amazing story
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>>18245789
It was partly caused by unclear zoning laws and broken promises.
>>18245804
Even if the Edict of Restitution would come into effect and could be enforced in the whole HRE it wouldn't crush protestantism.
>>18245888
Checked but no, while an important aspect the counterreformations weren't the primary cause of the war. That would be the deposition of the bohemian king (Ferdinand II.) by the bohemian estates, them electing a new king (Friedrich V. of the Palatinate) and whether or not those actions were lawful. The Protestant Union didn't even support Friedrich V. ascension to the bohemian throne as they saw that action as a personal power grab by Friedrich V, that would greatly destabalise the realm (which it did).
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>>18245789
How come they didnt get involved?
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>>18247012
They had their own wars with the Safavid Empire.
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>>18247019
>Habsburg-Safavid alliance
VGH!! What could be…
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learning about this shit made me lose any and all faith in christianity that i once had
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>>18247138
There was a Habsburg-Persian Alliance in the 16th century but it was never as fruitful as the French-Ottoman Alliance.
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>>18245789
Total Christian Victory
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>>18247004
>II.
Are you a German, Hungarian or Turk?
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>>18247012
They fought Poland to preoccupy them and keep them out of the war
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>>18247665
German.
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>>18245789
>fuck happened
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>>18248700
>Can't pay?
>We'll take it anyway!



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