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Of the ones that have made it, what caused it?
>Genetics? Cutlure? Trade? High trust society? Geo position on the map? Climate? Tough people? Masculinity? Luck? Leadership? Great men? Technology? Organization? Belief? etc
And of the ones who don't make it (the VAST majority) why couldnt they, and which ones could have made it?
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>>18246010
Most of these were never superpowers, only regional powers. A superpower has the ability to project its power worldwide.
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>>18246010
It’s mostly a matter of geography. Philosophy certainly plays a major role in shaping civilizations, but ultimately it comes down to who has the natural resources to turn their visions into reality.
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>>18246010
>superpower Qing and not the Ming
ahistorical
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>>18246115
>Ming was a superpower
How? It was pretty isolationist, I'm saying it couldn't have been, I'm just saying it wasn't.
>inb4 Qing was too
Only towards the end.
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>>18246010
Great power isn't the same thing as Superpower. Even the USSR wasn't really a superpower.
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>>18246123
>Even the USSR wasn't really a superpower.
Nan that's just your revisionist take.
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>>18246121
Better question, why don't you consider current CCP china a superpower?
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>>18246141
because he's a fed. it's easy to sniff them out by how passively they try to downplay china and the overwhelming triumph of racial nationalism.
the implication that china was a world power when it was a balkanized puppet is funny. as if to say making ceramics to give to the anglos in exchange for heroin is superpower status, but cuckolding the US by forcing them to refuse recognizing Taiwan as a sovereign state is not superpower status.
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>>18246141
They have the economic power but are still lacking with the means to project military power globally as well as cultural influence. Their political influence is also still limited. They can't bend nations over the same way the US and USSR have done.
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>>18246010
Japan really shouldn't be considered a superpower during WW2. They were getting whipped on every front with an outdated economy, and they just kept opening new fronts. The most impressive thing about Japan during WW2 was their knack for delusional thinking and tendency for throwing cheap shots. On a similar note, Germany didn't *just* become a superpower during the Nazi regime. They had held the entire war effort during WW1, had already whipped France and Austria, and were the preeminent continental force prior to their defeat in a similar dogpile as WW2. Also alot of this really depends on how you define superpower.
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>>18246010
genetics, they are all from high iq races (caucasoid and mongoloid)
and grography and position in the map
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>>18246010
>no india
I call bullshit on that.
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>>18246424
Saaaaaaaaaaar do not redeeem!
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>>18246010
This is a good chart (for a change) but Austria never was a superpower; let alone for that long.
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The UK was definitely not THE superpower of the XVIII cent.
It was definitely ONE OF, but it did not clearly stand above France, Spain or the Netherlands, in fact it stood below them for a good part of the century. It was only after the Napoleonic wars that it became the clear preeminent power.
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>>18246515
> Austria never was a superpower
HABSBURGS
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>>18246523
>It was only for 86 years of that century that-
Lmao cope
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Only the USA and the USSR were superpowers
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>>18246010
> Catastrophic Amnesia

Superpower is a temporary societal psychosis. A society collectively forgets its own natural limits... Britain forgot it was a rainy island and acted like a global seamonster. America forgot it was an isolationist agrarian project and decided to literally govern the ocean. They all suffered a psycho-historical break where their perceived possible realm of action radically exceeded their physical and historical reality. Every potential superpower that >could have but didn't (Poland-Lithuania, Mali, Ottoman Empire) had a moment of clarity instead...
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>>18246010
Imperial Germany was real superpower economically unlike Nazis counterpart
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>>18247260
No. Just no.
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This image is nonsensical. Japan was considered a great power since the start of the 20th century. Germany had been a great power since the creation of the German Federation, and it was only briefly discounted as one after WW1 before regaining its status under the Nazis.

Also like a third of those flags apply to countries which did not exist during the time periods they are representing
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>>18247250
This. The correct term is "Great Power" which refers to a nation of sufficient influence and strength that none of its neighbors can afford to ignore it diplomatically, and must always make foreign policy decisions factoring in the great power's opinion.

A super power has global sphere of influence, meaning everything I said about great powers, but it applies to the entire world. The USA, arguably the mightiest nation on earth after WW2, had to carefully consider the Soviet response to every global action it took, which proved the USSR's status as a co-superpower.
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>>18247270
Yes. Also yes.
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>>18246010
Britain was never an hegemon
Even at their height they needed strong allies to compete with lone Germany
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>>18246010
Wrong image. Russia is still a superpower.
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>>18247291
lol no. It's long downgraded to a regional great power. It no longer wields global influence.
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>>18247292
>It no longer wields global influence.
Africa: wagner/pmcs kicking out fr*nch, new allies in sahel
Arctic: dominant position, new icebreaker fleet
Energy: still fueling china/india, gas is king
Nukes: still the biggest arsenal on earth, checkmate
Global south: not bowing to us/nato, trade in rubles/yuan

Russia is a global superpower. Always has been, always will be.
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>>18247247
>XVIII century
>Napoleonic wars
Anon...I...
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>>18247317
This is the saddest cope I think I've ever seen
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>>18247286
I don't think you have to argue that the us was stronger than the soviets post war
the absolutely insane thing is that that soviets took the full brunt of the war and lost something like 5% of their entire prewar population while the us was never touched and the soviets could STILL contest the us across the world for the next 40 years

capitalism is stronger though btw, it took decades to beat a country that had both arms tied behind its back while the capitalist bloc had every possible advantage. its gonna be funny watching the west completely melt down over the next couple decades since china now has all the advantages, on top of not being a braindead capitalist shithole
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>>18247325
China bubble is already popped, collapse soon.
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>>18246010
By those standards Germany should include the period between Otto the Great and the Gregorian reforms. And between 1871 and 1918. Also China and Persia a few more times.
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>>18247238
The habsburgs in Spain were a superpower, in Austria they didn't do shit
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>>18247247
Ask me how I know you're American
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>>18247278
Japan mass exported karayuki-san teenage Japanese prostitutes to foreign men and begged Jew bankers like Jacob Schiff for help against Russia.

They begged Britain to design their weapons in the Sempill mission.
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>>18246010
America isn't a superpower anymore
China is still a superpower
The UK wasn't a superpower in the first half of the 20th century
Japan was never a superpower
France was a superpower for a much larger period of time
Modern Greece has nothing to do with ancient 'greek' states.
Russian empire was a superpower for about the same period of time as were other european empires. They owned the ottomans in virtually every single war they had and they conquered Siberia before the chinks or the mongols got there.
You could argue that the EU is a superpower, because it's basically USSR 2.0 if you cranked repressive laws a notch, took out any immigration barriers and gave the power centres (Germany and France) way more power over other soviet republ--- sorry, I mean other EU states.



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