It sure seems to promote the fertility of low class undesirables while limiting reproduction of the most fit.Hypergamy seems like the natural solution at the species level. Removes mates for the less fit and has them flock towards the most fit.
this would be true only under the premise that breeding would be regulated according to conscious eugenic principles, such as preemptively selecting males for reproduction that are large, strong, intelligent, beautiful, healthy, fertile and courageous etc.this is not what actually happens in nature. with a billion dollars i could afford to sire children from 10 000+ women, easily, even if I were to be an obese geriatric retard.true eugenics would require deliberate selective breeding.
>>18248762I think it's wild we have gay marriage but polygamy is illegal. This contradiction is completely unexplainable without mental gymnastics.
>>18248762No, because monogamy produces better people by having a stable two-parent household. Even if the genetic material isn’t as good as it could be, the end product of a monogamous couple will be better than if the same person came out of a polygamous household and be more fit and capable of doing the same.
>>18248798Having a chad father is more inspiring than having a henpecked cuckold father married to an ungrateful middle aged woman who refuses to even have sex with him out of spite. Monogamy is unnatural and the evidence makes it clear. Men of means ALWAYS have side pieces.
IDK famalam DESU tbf though you're still a cuck if you let other people plow your girl. It's you that should be plowing they gurl muh nigga modofakka
>>18248808Being raised well by two parents is always superior to having a deadbeat dad that fits some retard’s definition of “chad.” There’s nothing inspiring about not having your father in your life because he’s out fucking women other than your mom. Just look how dysfunctional blacks are, or even polygamous Mormons despite the dad technically being around. Coming from a single mother household is one of the greatest indicators of all kinds of issues, from drug abuse to criminal behavior. People need their dad to be present and dedicated. “Daddy issues” is a phrase that exists for a reason.
>>18248829Again, look at how dysfunctional polygamous Mormons are. Go look up how dysfunctional polycules are. The father’s attention is divided among a bunch of wives and his children might as well not have a father despite him technically being around. The same phenomenon happens with the dad that works all the time and never see their kids. And one good father spending time and instilling his values on his kid is better than a dozen loving mothers. It doesn’t stop there either because jealousy naturally seeps in. Do you expect mother A to give as much of a fuck about mother B’s son? Fat chance. You get nonstop drama and fighting by trying to have multiple women share one man. Even if you put them in separate houses: resources are further stretched, they’re still going to be petty and jealous, and the dad is hoping around between houses and might as well not be around.The obvious solution is for chad to marry a 10/10 woman and pump out 10 kids instead.
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>>18248845Yes, a cornerstone institution for western civilization, which towers above all others, is beta copium. But you really know how things should work.
>>18248829Exactly. The ban on polygamy leads to a weaker society with weaker men. The fittest and most successful men are going to continue fucking other women, while the system makes it harder to be involved in their children's lives because of some completely unnatural pussy notion of fealty to one woman.>>18248841>dysfunctionalNot an argument. You literally said nothing.
>>18248860Europe's natural state was polygamy before the Romans fucked it up. The Roman empire and Christianity is effeminate and cucked.
>>18248762both systems you proposed are dysgenic>>18248764sexual dimorphism isnt a positive quality>>18248901mass polygamy leads to low trust in the tribe and causes civilizational collapse
>>18248841>Even if you put them in separate houses: resources are further stretched, they’re still going to be petty and jealous, and the dad is hoping around between houses and might as well not be around.>The obvious solution is for chad to marry a 10/10 woman and pump out 10 kids instead.This
>>18248764>Monogamous species lose sexual dimorphism over timeNot necessarily. Monogamy can also trend towards female-biased SSD where the females are larger than males.
>>18249008Damn nigguh. U b sayin dem stay at home housewife soccer pawg baddies gonna got thiccer da next centuries. Cracka is u 4reel???
>>18248762hypergamy, as we can see, leads to elite status men and women not reproducing at all.
>>18248808was your dad a loser? Are you speaking from experience?
>>18248798>No, because monogamy produces better people by having a stable two-parent householdMost people come from monogamous households and they are horrible, however
>>18248901How did it won in the end?
>>18248762Darwinian fitness doesn't matter. We are optimized for social compliance insread of survival. Monogamy is the last eugenics program, designed by early states to breed predictable, tax-paying peasants instead of warlord offspring. Hypergamy would just reshuffle a deck into anarchy of chads.
>>18249194we did it?
>>18249130like who?
>>18248762>limiting reproduction of the most fit.How do you plan to estimate who is most fit? By wealth? Many wealth especially in the past was hereditary wealth and has no correlation with fitnes of it's owner.Wealth correlate with fitness if it's self made wealth, or even better self made middle class wealth, but how do you differentiate it ftom hereditary wealth?
>>18248772>>18250567retarded take.You don't need everyone that is rich to be fit for that to work.This is like saying that if you killed half of the population that has red hair at any given point in time you are not selecting for red hair because half of them are still alive + recessive carriersInsofar as fitness is positively correlated with wealth, selecting for wealth is selecting for fitness
>>18248762Why would you even want to get rid of "lower-class undesirables"? Who's going to do the shitty jobs that make society function?Also what exactly makes this guy "superior" and more worthy of reproduction?
>polygamy goodThe brown infestation continues>it's heckin eugenic fellow chuds!!!Not really, if anything it privileges nepobaby failures among the richRich people can most afford the wives, so they benefit mostBut rich intelligent people will spend their time contributing, doing useful thingsRich useless idiots will bask in their inborn luxury, accrue gold diggers, overbreed (only eugenic benefit being that many will not be theirs, they don't have time to watch that many women), and turn the privileged classes into wastrels like themselves
>>18248762Only if you equate eugenics with being a whore/manslut.Many of the wisest and most accomplished men in human history have been celibate or indifferent to sex.
>>18250543Worked at public service. It turned me into a misanthropist at the end of it
>>18248762No the opposite, the more monogamic pairs the more stable society is. After all what do you do with excess lonely young males, constantly start expansionist wars to cull them, make them trannies or homosexuals, let them be a powderkeg for futue societal problems. Monogamy means also more men to have stakes in society and are willing to contribute more.
>>18250749>After all what do you do with excess lonely young malesChina and India has tens of millions of surplus young men because of patriarchal family policies and sex-selective abortions and yet nothing is happening. You'd expect there to be serious social unrest, but these men just... exist.They don't even have incel forums in China, and most of India still isn't online, so they can't vent on the Internet either. What do these men do all day?
>>18248762>>18250754Hypergamy's actual problem is that is actually collapses fertility. Huge amount of women never get pregnant to anyone at all, not even to chads with peak genes. And those women who get pregnant only do it maybe once or twice before getting too old.
>>18250759I don't think low fertility is due to hypergamy per se, as much as it is due to technology, feminism and urbanization.
>>18250754China has a pretty sizable human trafficking issue where foreign women and even some poor and unlucky Chinese women are enslaved into brothels and forced into marriages. The black market of women answers the incel issue, even the poor and rural Chinese men save money to purchase girls to marry from poorer countries. I don't doubt that it is a bigger problem than CCP publicly admits.https://thediplomat.com/2025/05/chinas-sex-industry-and-the-human-trafficking-crisis-a-deepening-human-rights-emergency/Similar trafficking has also been practiced with North Korean women sold to Chinese bachelors.https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/08/asia/north-korean-refugees-trafficked-china-intl-hnk-dstIndia has also a lot of trafficked Nepali girls for same reasons. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-12-21/every-daughter-matters-stops-nepali-girls-being-trafficked/106033126
