Comfy Mesoamerica thread, no negativity allowed. What's your favorite city?
>>18249515TzinTzunTzan
>>18249515All answers other than Ür are WRONG
>>182495152006 Baghdad.
>>18249515I love Daggerfall!
I want to live in an alternate universe where these people lived on and still lives like this
>>18249568i also want to preform ritual blood letting by passing a stingray spine through my foreskin
>>18249579I'd be a tourist so I wouldn't have to do that
>>18249515Glad mesoboring thread barely can reach 80 answers
>>18249579That probably would've been put to a stop in the modern era either way
>>18249592if theyre so boring why do you keep coming to them?
>>18249592The precolumbian Americas is easily among the top 3 most interesting periods in history for me
Palenque is small but ultra cozy, great artists there too
>>18249868a bit annoying that these reconstructions never include the surrounding farmland
>>18249597Circumcision lol
>>18249579Only classic maya god kings did that, the most you needed to do as a peasant in most societies was prick your ears and fingers to draw blood drooplets from time to time
>>18249871In Palenque's case it is accurate, the city was located on a relatively narrow portion of flat land on an otherwise very steep hill/mountain, so most of the commoner homes were packed tightly on terraces next to the monumental fancier structures (as you can see in >>18249868, rather then in radial suburbs that stretched far outThere were only a bit of additional structures beyond the limits seen here, pic related is really like 99% of the city
>>18249909>>18249871>>18249868Actually I guess you said "farmland" rather then commoner homes, I'm not sure off the top of my head how expansive the agricultural land was for palenque or if it was mostly cleared land vs managed agroforestry or not.
Teotihuacan for its urbanism and the quality of life of its commonersPalenque due to its artUxmal due to its architecture>>no negativity allowed Faggot
>>18249935it was a multiculti hell hole. Totonacs and Tarascans should never intermingle
>>18249515How different were the Maya to other mesos?
We need more architecture thread in /his/ instead of the usual squabble.Why is that so much to ask?
>>18250132What's your favorite piece of Mesoamerican architecture? I like the acropolis at Tonina, and the great pyramid of Cholula is pretty cool too.
>>18250073They could read and write.That's about it.
I don't know if I should consider the cities as such, but it would have been great to be Iroquois
>>18250688Don't start it man. They'll come in here.
>>18250414The Maya weren't the only ones that could do that either, the epi-olmec and classic zapotec scripts appear to be about as complex, the Maya were just the ones that used theirs long enough and/or got lucky to have a Spanish friar in charge of their conversion that tried to learn it, which is what made its decipherment possible
>>18250688spaniards aren't white, they're moor rapebabies
>>18250688I said no negativity take your lazy bait somewhere else
I wish it wasnt so hard to find new information on Valeriana, they should have an english blog or something for their findings there
>>18250373>>18250132Mesoanon here.My favorites would be:>Texcotzinco (not that there's much left)>The Feathered Serpent Pyramid at Teotihuacan>The Quetzalpapalotl complex at Teotihuacan>The West Plaza complex at Teotihuacan (the complex in the foreground of OP's pic)>The Central Acropolis at Tikal>The Palace at Palenque>Any structure with a lot of intact murals in general>Most Puuc style structures with a lot of accenting in general (So a lot of structures at Uxmal, Sayil, etc, such as the Nunnery Quadrangle)>The Main Group at Copan>the various terraces at Cantona>The temple at Ek Balam with the stucco facade>Casa de la CacicaMight be a few i'm forgetting. Something like the Templo Mayor just isn't intact enough to make the list, the level of preservation is a big factor, tons of stuff would make it if they were comparably so to what's in the list, conversely say Casa de la Cacica would be nothing special if it was a lot more ruined>>18250809Isn't the main paper that got it attention CC BY? That's more open-ness then a lot of sites get
>>18250949I just want ground level photos, like>check out this building we're excavatingor>just dug up this cool little statue!Stuff like that
>>18249568>ancient mesopotamian cultures survive instead of being raped to death by smell inbred Arabs>The Paris regime never commits a cultural genocide against the French people>South America keeps its many cultures instead of turning into mestizo cartel spics Such a better world than this cursed timeline we live in.
>>18251207>mound builders already had big cities and empires of tens or hundreds of thousands at the time of european contact, they're able to continue progressing into who knows what>civilization probably is invented on the california coast>slow northern spread of mesoamerican influence and technology eventually allows more successful settlement of the american southwest, leading to a pueblo renaissance>amazonian civilizations dont get completely obliterated by smallpox so we can figure out wtf was going on down there>egypt still gets super romanized but they still retain far more egyptian culture than they ended up doing in our timeline>whatever the fuck happened to Indians to make them so poopy and retarded doesn't happen>the cultures of the tibetan plateau dont get chinkified and brutally repressed>rampaging muslim retards don't go around destroying ancient artifacts from the birthplace of civilizationVGH, WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN
Its a cliche pick but Tenochtitlan really was spectacular
Urban area in Tikal
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>>18251509Interior of stone Mayan house.
>>18251520>>18251515>>18251513>>18251512>>18251509>>18251508Where'd you find this?
>>18251570https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPoL7KZtIQM&t=231sScreenshots of a documentary series really interesting. I think these are probably some of the most realist reconstructions Mayan sites, they are comfy as fuck.
>>18251592ThanksIt looks good, but I think there's too much tree cover here, even putting aside the whole issue of the suburban sprawl and how much that would have been cleared land vs agroforestry, we know a lot of Tikal's core had plastered surfaces and drains and drains to funnel water into the resevoir and channel networkThe palace resevoir had a managed grove/garden around it as >>18251520 shows,, but allegedly that was some of the only greenery in the core, though I'd wager there were probably small plots for decorative trees and such too
Are you guys team Tikal or team Calakmul?
>>18250414Only the priest class.
>>18251838incorrect
>>18249515Probably Tenochtitlan. It’s easily the most famous pre-colonial city in South America. The only downside was that it was overcrowded and plagued by disease.
>>18251853>South AmericaWhat?>The only downside was that it was overcrowded and plagued by disease.What?
>>18251853People here should get a week long ban every time they post things like this that are so blatantly ignorant and wrong.
Where there any akin to military forts in Pre-Columbian era Mesoamerica? Like a location fortified for strategic reasons rather than protecting a city or being a residence for a monarch?
>>18252067Mesoanon here, the consensus seems to be yes, but they were uncommon, though I've seen others claim they actually weren't that infrequent, and others who claim that they weren't really a thing at allI've yet to really fully wrap my head around the debate to be honest, and while there's a bit more about it I can comment on (EX: so called Aztec "garrison colonies", the forts built along the Aztec-Purepecha border), I wouldn't have too much to add and, again, it seems to be somewhat contentious
>>18249515saw some pics of yemens capital recently, looks super comfy, imagine if gulf arabs took inspiration from this (maybe building some modern architecture that took nspiration from it) when building their tourism or wealth flexing cities instead of building ugly generic glass boxes in a desert
>>18251826Calakmul KALOOMTE’S were too based for this gay earth, even today we owe the Holy Lords of the Kaan Kingdom our eternal respect, if not for their valiant struggles with Tikalfags, all the world may have fallen in the under the sway of Mutalhomo
Tenochtitlan>>18249579Isn't that what USians do when they're born tho
>>18252229wut
