> Conquer the very center of human civilization.> The very one that was the dominant cultural and economic power for the past ~3000 years.> Lose any edge you had above the European barbarians within 300 years.> Drag the region into poverty and irrelevance within 500 years.What's so great about Islamic civilization? Am I missing anything?
>>18250618Not true, Persia was still relevant for centuries until they got mogged by Tamerlane.
>>18250618> Conquer the very center of human civilization.>The very one that was the dominant cultural and economic power for the past ~3000 yearsWhat a bizzare alternate history. The middle east was a conquered shithole for a thousand years at that point
>>18250692Syria and Egypt were still by far the wealthiest parts of the early Byzantine Empire and its intellectual centers rivaled only by Asia minor and Constantinople.
>>18250697>Syria and Egypt were still by far the wealthiest parts of the early Byzantine EmpireLmao talk about delusional. What did Syria produce other than christian shit. As for Egypt it was just a plantation for feeding constaninople. It had nothing else. I always laugh when people ahill the so called wealth of the roman east
>>18250618Islam promotes consanguineous marriage (cousins especially) and leads to a steady genetic degeneration and clannish social structure. One can see this all over the islamic world.>What's so great about Islamic civilization?That which they adopt from nonislamic civilization. Before they ruin it.
>>18250711>What did Syria produce other than christian shit. Histories, satires, architecture guides, chronicles, philosophy. Christian stuff as well, jut because you hate it doesn't mean it isn't intellectual. In terms of wealth, Syria was a land with the greatest amount of orchids which were extremely profitable in antiquity and as a result was taxed double a regular farm.>I always laugh when people ahill the so called wealth of the roman eastThe most agriculturally productive region of the earth is actually wealthy in a world where wealth depends on agricultural output.
>>18250719>Histories, satires, architecture guides, chronicles, philosophy. Christian stuff as wellyou just repeated histories by saying chronicles because you have jack shit. Not to mention they were christian histories>Syria was a land with the greatest amount of orchids this is the best you could come up with. >The most agriculturally productive region of the earth is actually wealthy in a world where wealth depends on agricultural output.a plantation is a plantation no matter how much you copeMuh rich roman east is just cope invented by liberals and their pet brownoids
>>18250733Greeks mocked Middle Easterners for being too pale
>>18250652This. Took the Mongols to do this. Same thing happened to China. India was actually helped though.
>>18250736>Greeks mocked Middle Easterners for being too paleIf that's how you get to sleep at night sure why not. In reality it's like staring in a mirror with the shitskin and nappy hair
>Greeks mocked Middle Easterners for being too pale
>>18250733>you just repeated histories by saying chroniclesThey aren't the same dumbass. They make up two different genres of literature. Chronicles only start appearing in Late Antiquity, favoured by Syriac and Armenian writers. >Not to mention they were christian historiesProcopius was not writing as a Christian historian.>this is the best you could come up with. Prosperity isn't real because you said so I guess.>a plantation is a plantation no matter how much you copeSo a small amount of Egyptian estates selling their crop to the Roman state for market price means that they are a plantation? These people are still getting wealthy off of it. That's not even considering the majority of people which did not sell their crop to the Roman state.>Muh rich roman east is just cope invented by liberals and their pet brownoidsYour inability to understand how pre-modern economies work is fascinating.
>>18250744>They aren't the same dumbasslmao. chronicles were the most common type of history everywhere>Procopius Saar this brown ethnic greek was my ancestor. What happened I thought you were pale?>Prosperity isn't real because you said so I guess.you just made shit up >Your inability to understand how pre-modern economies work is fascinating.By your dogshit logic Haiti was the most prosperous part of the French empire. Having an entire province of serfs all dedicated to produce cheap food for your capitial does not make the serfs wealthy
>>18250711Syrians almost monopolized manufacture and trade in the Mediterranean prior to Muslim conquest. It was by far the wealthiest and most productive part of the late Roman Empire.
>>18250746>chronicles were the most common type of history everywhereDo you really not know anything about ancient genres?>Saar this brown ethnic greek was my ancestor.Besides your mentally ill nonsense. Procopius was a native to the city.>What happened I thought you were pale?Take your meds you retard. What the fuck are you talking about?>you just made shit upMore productive, higher income land predominately in Syria does not exist because you are mad.>By your dogshit logic Haiti was the most prosperous part of the French empireExcept Egypt was not a slave plantation.>Having an entire province of serfs all dedicated to produce cheap food for your capitial does not make the serfs wealthyThey didn't sell their produce for any cheaper than elsewhere to the state. Compared to just about the rest of the world. An Egyptian farmer could expect higher and more reliable crop yields and therefore, was wealthier than those in the same position without these advantages. How do you think ancient economies worked? Banks and fiat currency?
>>18250743Ancient Greeks were black.
>>18250618Should have never bothered with civilizing the Turks. Islam only worked as a Semitic ethno-religion.
>>18250743>>18250740Persia should've won btw
>>18250618I guess the Ottoman hard cock that penetrated europussy for centuries gets written out of this timeline
>I guess the Ottoman hard cock that penetrated europussy for centuries gets written out of this timeline
>>18250743
>>18250618By late antiquity the middle east was a shithole ravaged by the Roman-Persian wars and Justinian's plague. Islamic rule was unironically an improvement since it led to stability
>>18250743Damn these guys had the muzzie beard since at least antiquity.
The turks are the ones to blame for that instead of the arabs or persians
