We are two days away from watching Christians flood churches, sing about a homeless newborn King, and praise a Savior who was born to poor parents with nothing.And the irony is brutal: some of these people would step over that baby today if He were lying in a manger outside a Walmart. They’d call Mary “irresponsible,” Joseph “a bad provider,” and tell the Holy Family to “get a job” instead of offering them a place to stay or a meal to eat.They would demand the Holy Family be deported back to where they came from, because while fleeing the threat of their child being killed, they crossed an imaginary line in the desert "illegally."They celebrate the birth of a child they wouldn’t even feed a child they’d judge, shame, and legislate against if He showed up right now.If this season exposes anything, it’s how loudly some folks claim Christ while having absolutely zero interest in living even a fraction of what He taught.
Absolutely zero sounds like a bit of a stretch given that theists generally provide more charity than atheists do.
The Christians run almost every homeless shelter and food bank, which you would know if you were actually in need and not privileged bourgeois.
>>18251447Almsgiving is a core Chirstian duty taught explicitly in the Bible and Lithurgy, if the people who know the teachings do not obey they will be held accountable. By God. Not be the local atheist who doesn't even believe anything but likes to judge everyone.
>>18251451This is highly misleading, since much of religious people’s donations consist in donations to religious organizations and other generally ineffective charities.
>>18251447They went back to Judea as soon as Herod died THOUGH>If this season exposes anything, it’s how loudly some folks claim Christ while having absolutely zero interest in living even a fraction of what He taught.Don't remember Jesus telling us to take in one million retarded rapist Somalians who live off of welfare.
>Move within borders of the Roman Empire
>>18251791>Don't remember Jesus telling us to take in one million retarded rapist Somalians who live off of welfareThat was a... Different. Middle-eastern religious founder.
>>18251791>Don't remember Jesus telling us to take in one million retarded rapist Somalians who live off of welfareHebrews 13:2 “ Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it.”
>>18251447You know I always hear about right wing bible thumpers as a problem, but I've found this left wing use of Christianity to push their political bullshit to be so utterly obnoxious, trashy, and tasteless.
>>18251901Hospitality does not mean let them live off of you forever.
>>18251903Yeah but Right Wingers are totally chill when it comes to religion, right? Lmao
am a Jew! But even I think Jesus Christ is a good role model and Christianity is better than Judaism. Don't worship the Mammon!!! Christian ! Plead for the cause of the widow and the fatherless!!! Support welfare and charity. Do not cut food stamp:Isaiah 1:17:>Learn to do right! Seek justice, relieve the oppressed, and correct the oppressor. Defend the fatherless, plead for the widow.
>>18251447>if He showed up right now.When Jesus Christ returns, he will return as a king on a horse with a sword, not as a baby
>>18251447Jesus was a star, not some homeless drug addict filled with hubris and sloth. Also, Christians dont step over and ignore babies. Its the atheists who abort their children for financial reasons.
>>18251789>generally ineffective charitiesYou're just making shit up in your head.
>>18252003Feed the poor and relieve the pain from those suffering from it !!!>Your rulers are rebels, partners with thieves; they all love bribes and chase after gifts. They do not defend the cause of the fatherless; the widow’s case does not come before them.
>>18251903I literally became a christian because of covid 19, and all of the bullshit on the left.
>>18252045This guy, for example >>18251789 is just randomly shitting on people for donating to charity.
>>18252056So why do you think charities are honest?
>>18251903>You know I always hear about right wing bible thumpers as a problemBecause they are. Nice attempt at throwing the heat off of evangelical kikes.
>>18252056People should donate to effective charities. I am shitting on you for donating to Pastor Jim’s 53rd independent Baptist church and thinking that makes you a better person.
>>18251447It’s because they’re not Christian. They affix the term as a cultural and racial identity. They’re against any social reforms to make the lives of the poor better, they’re against helping people who look different than them, they even try to protect child abusers and rapists because it preserves their cultural hierarchies. They worship people who accumulate vast wealth at the expense of others, and so on. None of this is remotely Christian, but they’ll tie themselves in knots trying to justify it.
>>18251789>>18252065Charity is charity regardless of the organization. If you want to argue that atheists get more charity per buck, I'll be glad to look at the numbers. Where are they?
>>18252294NTA, but you’re figuring in shit like donations to mega churches and prosperity gospel. If anything it just shows faux Christians are easy to scam.
>>18252302We don't really have many of in Europe and theists still outperform atheists in charity by most metrics. Also, let me just point out that OP's goalpost is about Christians not being open to charity to begin with. Being so open they suffer fraud because of it is a shame, but disproves OP nevertheless.
>>18252294>Charity is charity regardless of the organization.It's really not. Many charitable organizations are just religious organizations that don't do any genuine charity work at all. Further, there are lots of charities that do things that are controversial. There are pro-abortion and anti-abortion charities. Whatever your moral views are, one of these groups of charities is doing very evil things that harm people. So, you can't simply look at how much money people donate and take that as evidence of who is more charitable and virtuous.
>>18252366The argument is that Christians aren't open to charity. The data says they are. If you want to put an asterisk behind the numbers that some of the money might be spent inefficiently, I am fine with that and I will even return the favor (since atheists aren't immune to this in the slightest), but it doesn't really affect the goalpost at hand.The objection amounts to "yeah Americans are heavier but what if they just get weighted post-lunch"? Interesting hypothesis, but it would have to do an incredible amount of lifting to change the general trendline.
>>18252392>The argument is that Christians aren't open to charity.This was not even the argument being made in the OP.>some of the money might be spent inefficientlyNor is this what I was arguing. You seem to lack reading comprehension.
>>18251785>The Christians run almost every homeless shelter and food bankYou know that's a subtle expression of economic and social control and it's not just about having a bleeding heart, right?Plus, I don't know where you're from, but in Western countries those charities are infamous for clothing, sheltering and feeding hordes of ethnic invaders
>>18252406If you don't understand how feeding the needy and offering them a place to stay is charity, I'm fine you maintaining whatever opinion you had. Merry Christmas!
>>18252035Religious charities are there to evangelize in Africa and teach people in the most AIDS ridden section of the planet to not wear condoms. Its a sick joke to call them a charity. Bill and Melinda Gates have better charities and they're as close to the antichrist as you can get.
>>18251447If you think Christos in the West are animated by the positive forces of their religion you have a pretty backwards view of them. Long gone are the days of "hate the sin, love the sinner", it's all performative. Being even slightly tolerant of people being different will get you branded as a non Christian by these people. Quite sad.>t. Sunday school kid
>>18252886This isn't true. All of the Christians I know are very welcoming and loving. The atheists I know are very intolerant. I use to be an atheist, and I am more tolerant and loving now that I am a Christian.
>>18251447>homelessJesus had a home. >poor parents with nothingCarpenters were very wealthy. Jesus' family owned slaves (John 2:5).Your post is garbage. Enjoy burning in hell nigger.
>>18251447>why do light skinned people treat dark skinned demons like they aren't welcome?reasons
>>18252007>>18252034>>18252293>>18252383>>18252899Why are you guys so insecure if jesus returns brown lol
where the fuck did this 'durr jesus = illegal immigrants' meme come from? anyone who knows enough about the manger story to know he was born in a barn knows it's because his parents were traveling back to their hometown where they no longer had a house because everyone had to be in the town of their birth for the roman census
Jesus will return asian and if anyone dares to question him about it they'll go straight into the giant wok floating on the lake of fire until everyone has accepted that no answers will be provided and the topic should be left alone.
>>18252294>Charity is charity regardless of the organizationlol no
>>18251447The deportations will continue (historically speaking), sorry tostiloco
>>18253007Cope
>>18252890>Carpenters were very wealthyCarpenters were not even remotely wealthy.>Jesus' family owned slaves (John 2:5).Those are servants serving the wedding.
The problem is white Americans. Most Christians globally are not MAGA. Americans are a spritually diseased people.
>>182529965 verses down when they have to flee to Egypt
>>18253139not enough chickens sacrificed to santa muerte o algo
>>18253139Truth, but that spiritual disease has been there since the first colonists. The most prominent Pilgrims were Free Masons whom incorporated Rabbinic Judaism into their spiritual practices. It's why the American elites were historically supportive of Zionism. You could say that America was the proto modern Israel.
>>18253193>the pilgrims were freemasons senorlove the superstitious browns we get here now
>>18253077Carpenters/Masons were basically ancient equivalents of architects, they were incredibly wealthy, for example Jesus and his family owned many slaves. See John 2:5.
>>18253201I accept the fact that you don't know anything about the Puritans. It's okay, most Americans are historically illiterate.
>>18253216The first freemasonic lodge was established almost a century after the establishment of the puritan colony and was an offshoot of an english lodge.>but muh secret history o algo (totally not the diabetes rotting my already-limited latinx mental capacities senor)
>>18253220Prominent Puritans like Cotton Mather were already studying Jewish mysticism and the Kabbalah, long before the formal establishment of Free Masonry in the colonies. Check your facts.
>>18253235>studying jewish mysticism makes you a freemason, senorThe barrios of Mexico City really are putting their intellectual heavyweights on this aren't they
>>18253241What do you think Free Masonry is?
>>18253250Why do I get the feeling the definition is going to be however broad you need it to be to "win" this argument
>>18253254>I don't know and I don't have to tell you thatThis is your answer summed up in a shorter sentence.
>>18251789All the biggest refugee settlement agencies in the US are Christian.
>>18252992anyone who isn't white and claims to be of God is lying because that contradicts scripture
>>18252294>Charity is charity regardless of the organizationI think there's a substantial difference between donating to a charity that does shit and a charity that's just lining the pockets of bloated staffs.
>>18252888>making shit up Some Christos I know are cool. The ones who make the most noise about it, especially on here, aren't.
>>18252881>Teaching abstinence is le bad!Lol. Merry Christmas. Thanks for the laugh
>>18253255Pretty sure the freemasons have more stringent membership requirements than 'interested in kabbalah', now run along and go back to favelaposting about the masons on /pol/ cleiton
>>18251447Joseph and Mary were not homeless. They were in Bethlehem to be registered, but they had a home to go back to.
>>18253168Mexicans are Americans. The whole continent is cursed.
>>18253323>especially on hereYou don't know anyone on here. Everyone is anonymous.
>>18253361What does that have to do with anything that I've said? This is a clumsy deflection over the fact that I called you out for knowing nothing about Free Masonry. If you're going to try to bullshit at least make an effort, there's nothing worst than bad liar.
>>18253452I'm not going to get dragged into your secret history conspiracy bullshit. The first known lodge was established as an offshoot of an English predecessor a century later. Keep coping you latinx tard
>>18253503>I'm not going to get dragged into your secret history conspiracy bullshit.You keep getting triggered and responding. Hello retard, you're already in it.
When did this board get so reddit?>hurr durr chuds don't realize Christianity is a liberal religionThe religious ones probably realize it but still hold onto Christianity because it's a racial/ethnic/cultural/civilizational/political identity marker. That's all there is to discuss here.
>>18251447Okay, but when will they go home? Joseph and Mary didn't stay in Egypt permanently. They returned to Judea as soon as it was safe to do so. These immigrants have no intention of returning home.
>>18253728This is the most reddit take of all. Christianity is not a liberal religion at all because it pre-dates any modern political sentiments. Retroactively declaring an institution as belonging to some modern faggotry due to superficial similarities is what brainlets do.
>>18251447Hispanics are an absolutely demonic people. I'd give hospitability to any Levantine but all Hispanics are nigger tier.
>>18251447>These border hoppers who want to invade my country are holy, actually.Christianity is going to die if this is what it's all about.
