Why are the Mayans considered an advanced civilization when the vast majority of Mayans lived in Africa tier mudhuts?
>>18251464For a pre-metal/Rudimentary-metal society they were pretty advanced.
>>18251464Another reason they seem quite primitive to me is they barely deforested the Yucatan peninsula with their cities being surrounded by rainforest. When I think of advanced civilizations, I think of states that had advanced urbanization, cultures that conquered their natural environment rather than natives living in forests(mayans) not to mention the mayans being entirely stone age.A mayan "city" was just a collection of hundreds or maybe thousands of huts with some basic stone pyramids in a jungle.
>>18251469Compare them to the Indus valley civ though. there were sewers, apartment buildings, warehouses, aqueducts so on.
>>18251464>>18251477you are ignoring context. for all of the different sorts of savages that were found in the Americas... the Mayans were the most advanced.when you compare them to let's say the Sumerians; well yeah they were walking garbage
>>18251464>>18251477They had writing and fucking books dude, that's pretty impressive for a pre-metal society.
>>18251482>the Mayans were the most advanced.Absolutely wrong the Aztecs and Andeans were way ahead of mayanniggers.
>>18251464Literally every single advanced civilization that has ever existed on Earth all the way until the Industrial Revolution had most of its population live in huts.>>18251477>Another reason they seem quite primitive to me is they barely deforested the Yucatan peninsula with their cities being surrounded by rainforestThey did deforest the shit out of the Yucatan Peninsula to the point it likely contributed to their collapse. You are literally making up grand narratives based entirely on CG reconstructions made by people who mostly just want to show off how the stone buildings looked.
>>18251541>Literally every single advanced civilization that has ever existed on Earth all the way until the Industrial Revolution had most of its population live in huts.Absolute bullshit most romans lived in insulae, most chinks lived in multi-roomed complex houses, most Mesopotamians lived in multistory and multi-roomed mudhouses I could go on and on. Even most Gauls lived in houses with at least two rooms. A hut is a simple single storied house made of perishable materials you don't know what you are talking about.
>>18251541>You are literally making up grand narratives based entirely on CG reconstructions made by people who mostly just want to show off how the stone buildings looked.Those cg models were used in a scientific documentary.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPoL7KZtIQM>They did deforest the shit out of the Yucatan Peninsula to the point it likely contributed to their collapseSource or gtfo
>>18251558Romans also had poop alleyways
>>18251568>moving the goalpostsEven if that's true they were a heavily urbanized people and almost never lived in huts aside from backwater areas in the empire like Britain where roundhouses in rural areas were still fairly common until the late imperial era.Don't get me wrong I'm not anti-Mesoamerican I just think we need to be realistic when discussing ancient civilizations.
>>18251464>the vast majority ofI don't think there's a single civilization before the modern era that has their advancedness measured by the living standards of the majority of their people. Who cares about regular folk? they're gay. Fuck those guys.
>>18251486there's no way proto-squatemalans came up with this shit on their own. There had to have been some lost indonesian shipwreck at some point in time that they didn't eat and instead learned from
>>18251605I ain't moving the goalposts because I'm a new poster. I haven't even read the whole thread nor the people you responded too kek
>vast majority of Mayans lived in Africa tier mudhuts?This is incorrect>>18251477>they barely deforested the Yucatan peninsula with their cities being surrounded by rainforestThis is completely incorrect>A mayan "city" was just a collection of hundreds or maybe thousands of huts with some basic stone pyramids in a jungle.This is completely incorrect>>18251479>there were sewers, apartment buildings, warehouses, aqueducts so on.Mayans had all of these thingsMaybe the reason Mayans seem primitive to you is you don't actually know even the absolute basics about them and you're just getting mad about an inaccurate image of them you constructed in your own head>>18251642>Indonesian specificallyJealous third worlder detected
>>18251925>indonesianIt just seems the most likely, there was a big Indian colonization eastward at some point in time long ago.How's a third worlder going to be jealous of fucking guatemala are you on crack?
>>18251933the only way you'd ever think that fucking Indonesia was the most likely to make significant contact with the Mesoamerica is if you were a thirdworlder who views history the way a child would and wants to make their "team" look better. Any sane person would say China or Japan following northern coastlines but that would still be retarded
>>18251933>>18251944He probably meant Polynesians.
>>18251974Polynesians did not have any writing themselves and so obviously couldn't teach anyone anything of that nature, and both the Maya script and the earlier mesoamerican scripts it clearly gradually evolved from pre-date most of the the Polynesian expansion, including their arrival in the eastern pacific by about 1200 years.
>>18251464USA has homeless people living in tents made of garbage bags, but also own iphones. Same concept really
>>18251991The Polynesians of Easter Island did have the Rongorongo script. No other Polynesian people is known to have had writing, though.
>>18251464>elites who could read running a 'national' bureaucracy No idea
>>18251464Most people through history lived in huts because most people were farmers, your question was badly loaded, mayas and amerindians in general get extra points because they managed all these things mostly on their own rather than belonging to the eurasian-african landmass. They are the answer to the question about what would happen if you threw a bunch of humans into another planet with mostly inimical climate and geography, the answer is they would still manage to get an advanced civilization after some thousand of years.
>>18252037and we don't know how old rongorongo really is - it is most likely recent, as in, inspired by encounters with european writing. plus, it's undecyphered, and therefore not sure if it is writing or just some more generic mnemonic device that can only be "read" by that one person who "wrote" it.
>>18251464You’re not gonna believe this, but most rural people historically lived in shitty shacks
