Would a roman style dictator ever work in american polity? It would be a guy appointed with a set time limit to solve a grave crisis plaguing the country. Such as rapid demographic change from barbarians coming across the border, or recession the government can't get out of, or civil strife. In nearly all cases in the roman republic, the dictator solved the crisis and stepped down
>>18254656>american politician>solving the crisisAre you posting from delulu land?
>>18254746He's crafting kino. Let him paint.
>>18254656>why dont we just have a good leader that fixes everything and then politely leaves when the problems are solved???damn you're right, how has nobody ever thought of this before?
>>18254656No, there is no legal structure like that in America's constitutional framework, unlike in ancient Rome's Republic where the creation of a temporary office of Dictator was an accepted part of their political system for dealing with crises. The closest thing in the US is that the constitution permits congress to suspend habeas corpus, but only "in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion [when] the public Safety may require it." This has only been done twice, during the civil war, and then during reconstruction, both were temporary and localized but were also extremely controversial and unpopular.The constitution gives no authorization for martial law, suspension of elections, or unilateral executive authority in times of crisis. If this were done it would be seen as a coup, not as a legally recognized office created with consent of the senate like the ancient roman dictator (when it was created legitimately, rather than through a military coup, like Sulla's dictatorship).Also the Roman dictator was really something that existed to solve discrete crises like invasion or insurrection, not something like demographic change or economic decline.
>>18254656FDR was essentially the closest America has gotten to a Cinncinatus, Mussolini or Putin and I mean that in a non-derogatory way as well.
>>18254656>Would a roman style dictator ever work in american polity?You have the most civiliancucked military in all of human history so no.
Dictatorships don't work when elites aren't bound by honor and shame
>>18255180now that you mention it, it is really remarkable how well America has managed to keep a lid on its military as a great power with a large standing army. The amount of political neutrality is ironically pretty extreme. Not only have there been no successful military coups, juntas, or overt threats of seizure of power, there haven't even been any attempts at it.I wonder what the difference is that we've been able to do that so many other countries haven't. You've got a civilian commander in chief, civilian secretaries of Defense and the military departments, civilian budgetary control exercised by Congress, statutory limits on the domestic use of armed forces for law enforcement, and flag officer promotions have to be approved by congress.But there's got to be more to it than that, right?
>>18255115>>18255199You two are saying the same thing.
>>18255115hmmm yeah if only there was literally a different President called the American Cinncinatus
>>18255202The military is sworn to Congress and defends the ideals of the American people. What we have in place of militaries that are separate from the will of the nation is bank dictatorships and bankocrats. Hamilton is the template for our dictators; not Napoleon.
>>18255260Thanks anon, your comment sent me down an educational rabbit hole.
>>18255487It's a fun little thing to learn that totally recontextualizes all of American history and allows you to break free of any petty partisan 1960s readings of the concept of America. It is a nation that stands for democracy and the common good disciplining dictators abroad and at home, a giant middle finger to inherited title or wealth granting status and power on the level of the various castes of the Old World.
>>18255043ThisIsAIIIIII!!!!
>>18256050nope, I wrote it
>>18254656>roman style dictator ever workIt only worked once for Rome. A key Roman state detail is that they were quick to execute politicians after they left Office for poor performance or actions. So Trump/Biden would both have been executed.
>>18254656A short poem I pennedTo his supporters, he's another Gracchi,To his enemies, he's Sulla reborn,To himself, he fancies the new Caesar,To posterity, he's just a dumber Crassus.You can guess who it's about.
>>18254656>picAlthough not a dictator, Augustus was offered the title a few times during his life, even after 27 BC (he declined each time however)
>>18255206Yes but FDR is actually closer than Washington was despite him having that as a nickname
