decades later and nobody can give a concise explanation on why it collapsed
>>18255363
>>18255363>decades later and I am still a fool that cant into multicausal thinking
>>18255363because that's just not how dialectical materialism works
>>18255363It's quite simple really
Inherited top down Tsarist structures and built an institutional system on top of them that largely incentivized nepotism and a form of "metitocracy" that quickly fell victim to Goodhart's Law and interpersonal/institutional sabotage, while the public was just hit with basically paternalism "daddy knows best" like they were in the tsarist period.The purges were too broad and paranoid and largely hit the true believers who didn't know when to shut up, while bad faith political actors learned to play the game and stay quiet and waited them out to seize power afterwards.After Stalin, with Stalin gone, Molotov sidelined and the Old Bolsheviks largely purged, what remained was just institutional political actors who didn't believe ideologically really in the system at all, and largely just did what they needed to do to keep power.Political system degenerated while the economy became a clusterfuck as they tried to keep up appearances of totally caring about "Communism" for the public while really just being corrupt liberals great example of this was the 1965 Kosygin-Liberman reforms which ended central planning while the party line was to pretend it totally really existed.Guy finally comes to power who actually is somewhat of a believer but also a pluralist. Invites experts from all different ideologies and from overseas to help craft a better Soviet system. He eventually decides in actually reinstituting central planning while massively cracking down on corruption. Soviet economy starts to improve.Guy dies from Type 1 diabeties basically as soon as he starts to turn things around. Group of those he returned are actually Neoliberals, they suddenly seize power. They hand over all Soviet media to foreign and anti-communist interests, they start attacking communism and destroy the institutions, Economy goes to complete shit, Organized Crime who control the black market suddenly become the most powerful people. Coup the Government with their own figurehead. USSR over.
>>18255928Also this is the big difference between the USSR and China.Russia = Bolsheviks seize the Constituent Assembly and thus the state institutions and throw a red coat of paint of them. This is the USSR and Communist Party.China = Communist party started as a decentralized local organization between villages and slowly took over the country from spreading to one village to the next. Because they were always hunted down they operated as different cells so one group being wiped out wouldn't destroy the rest this required each cell to be largely autonomous but work together to a larger party goal. This lead to the Chinese Communist Party forming into an organization that is based far more on localism and local participation and policy crafted to the local level with far more democratic input.This is why the Chinese Communist Party survives, and why the CPSU died. Someone like Gorbachev or Yeltsin could never, ever rise to power in China.
>>18255363>apes together strong
>>18255363It collapsed because the elites and the masses lost faith in the political system to maintain order.
>>18255942> Someone like Gorbachev or YeltsinYou mean revisionist traitors like Deng Xiaoping?
>>18255363It’s not that complicated >Oil prices fall and stay low, leading to economic stagnation and eventual chronic shortages as your underdeveloped light industry can’t keep up with growing demand>Your Chinese allies abandon you, isolating you and your puppets economically and politically >Nationalist factions emerge among the SR’s and among your puppets, sowing division. Your weak and geriatric leadership suppresses them just enough to anger them but not enough to actually crush them. >you lose in Afghanistan, a huge blow to your militaries morale and confidence in the regime>you can’t keep up with American technology and your attempts to invest in your military-industrial complex eventually bankrupt the state >collapse
>>1825536370yrs of attempted invasions, coups, assassinations, sanctions, embargoes by the worst people in the world
>>18255363It was a corrupt, economically braindead pyramid scheme. The bread basket USSR had to import grain, the workers' paradise had 10-year waits for a shitbox car, and the whole rotten system ran on fucking lies and favors. It collapsed because it deserved to.
>>18255363Stupidly simple as it may sound, they quite literally just ran out of money.
>>18255965>Revionist traitor is when you actually make your country so powerful and prosperous that it can actually challenge the US not just militarily but also economically The USSR never came close to reaching the industrial parity with the US that China has now
>>18255363Communism doesn't work. It really is that simple
>>18256860Would the USA also be Marxist in that case or do you simply think it's easier to be an opportunistic retard?
>>18255363The attempted coup convinced everyone that the system couldn't be improved.
>>18257708Is it?
>Communism doesn't w-ACK
>>18255363When the German revolution failed Russia had trouble industrializing and fell behind the capitalist world. Stalin purges would make the military a lot weaker which led to Germany being able to take large swaths of their land and inflict millions of casualties and destroying much of Russia. Then after the war ended there was another massive famine. There was no coming back from all this.
>>18255363It did its dash as a project. It was supposed to be anti-colonial and create a society for workers. It did both by the 60s, was propped up by oil in the 70s, and then got outflanked and was more holding back independence after. I think the less completely answered question is why China didn't go the same way, and I think it's because the Chinese were more focussed on restoring China and creating peace and prosperity, which the CPC was better at than anyone else.
>>18258819stopped being communist in late 50s
>>18258819Ah yes communism is when the proletariat and bourgeois hold hands and sing kumbaya.
