[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / r / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
Settings Mobile Home
/his/ - History & Humanities

Name
Options
Comment
Verification
4chan Pass users can bypass this verification. [Learn More] [Login]
File
  • Please read the Rules and FAQ before posting.

08/21/20New boards added: /vrpg/, /vmg/, /vst/ and /vm/
05/04/17New trial board added: /bant/ - International/Random
10/04/16New board for 4chan Pass users: /vip/ - Very Important Posts
[Hide] [Show All]


[Advertise on 4chan]


Why should the government be run by a handful of Rockefellers and Rothschilds instead of by the working class
>>
>>18255512
The stock market fulfilled more promisses of workers owning the means of production than these Warburg stooges.
>>
>>18255512
You say this as if the only alternative to a communist government is an oligarchy, which is not true. There's also no argument as to why the working class (or just 'workers', since communism is supposed to be classless) should run government or industry.
>>
Do you really want to put your trust in that hairline? If he shaved it all off I'd listen to what he had to say but like that, no chance bruv.
>>
File: 1739181467333660.jpg (191 KB, 1001x1593)
191 KB
191 KB JPG
>>18255562
And what of this man?
>>
It just needs to be mkay, the people will be pacified by actors and influencers doing political theatre, ideology is more important than governance for the onlooker.
>>
>>18255512
>Why should the government be run by a handful of Rockefellers and Rothschilds instead of be run by a bunch of thugs financed by a handful of Rockefellers and Rothschilds
>>
>>18255517
Yes goyim just buy the stock, then you'll own a piece of the company! Good goyim!
>>
>>18255567
He's based, that's what.
>>
>>18255587
>t. Brokie shitcoin jeet
>>
>>18255512
Turn the question around.
Why should it be ran by John Smiths who's hobbies are watching groids chase a ball and not J.P. Morgans of the world?

Hate the finance world all you want but I'll take the worst of them over a fucking moron that is the average person.
>>
>>18256064
John Smith will be held accountable by his population instead of funding disinfo campaigns and selling out his country men for God's chosen people.
>>
>>18255512
The working class don't run the government under communism.
>>
>>18256118
A core tenet of communism is realizing the fact that the working class are too stupid for their own good.
>>
>>18256067
No he will say I wasn't the only one who voted this way, you can make mistakes duh. Unless you want to turn John Smith into part of elite oligarchy recruited from some workers but then he'll be as untouchable as the financiers.
>>
>>18256067
John Smith can just makeup a scapegoat.
>>
Because it fell. It's over. Marxism is an outdated framework when it comes to understanding modern society. The opportunity for world proletarian revolution is past.
>>
File: Slavoj Žižek-3.png (758 KB, 720x608)
758 KB
758 KB PNG
>>18256382
>The opportunity for world proletarian revolution is past.
It will be, unless we get rid of Trump, Putin, Erdogan, Netanjahu and Xi Jinping before they start an unimaginable catastrophy.
And you know, the catastrophy is already on its way.
>>
>>18256791
Isn't Zizek was outed as big Epstein friend and supporter recently? Completely invalidates his clown ideology.
>>
>>18255517
Working class have never owned a sizeable share of the stock market. Around 1% of the population are 50% of all stock holders.
>>
>>18255512
Go see the role the west played in supporting the bolsheviks at the behest of the rothschilds during the october revolution and reevaluate your premise.
>>
>>18256064
god you are a fucking disgustingly subpar human being, full of bitterness for "John Smith" who is just a stand-in for the western man you will never be.
>>
>>18255512
>falling for internationalist conspiracies
>>
>>18256794
Where are you taking that from?
>>
>>18256829
It's huge news. Old leftist was caugh on and now many are turning against him.
>>
>>18256840
Well, what's your source, which publication or whatever
>>
>>18255587
Yeah that's how that works shitskin.
>>
>>18256840
I think you're talking about Chomsky. (Also Chomsky and Zizek hate each other iirc)

>>18256791
Truth nvke
>>
>>18255512
It's the lowest xp economic model. They don't know what the fuck they're doing. Meanwhile, we already got good at capitalism.
>>
File: Slavoj Žižek-2025-7.png (1.54 MB, 1099x675)
1.54 MB
1.54 MB PNG
>>18256893
Ah, thank you very much for clearing that misconception up.
>>
>>18255512
>communism
>ran by working class
>pic related
Lmao, that nigga never had a real days work of a man
>>
>>18255512
So basically what communism became when practised?
>>
>>18255512
>workers have no democratic control of their workplace
>workers can't form independent unions
>workers can't strike
>workers can't choose their jobs
>workers can only vote for the party's candidates
>workers are subject to constant insane campaigns to raise production higher and higher
>workers have far less freedom of expression than in capitalist democracies
>workers can't travel freely
>workers work for a wage with pay scales and often times for their Tsarist era bosses who were brought back by the party as 'bourgeois technicians'
>workers live in a shithole with a welfare system that on its best day gets btfo by capitalist social democracies
>the government is composed of bureaucrats who by definition are not workers
>but the workers are in charge because the vanguard party is the most advanced segment of the working class
Explain how this is any less silly than transubstantiation.
>>
>>18255512
Lenin wasn't working class
>>
>>18255512

Yawn
>>
>literally exact opposite happens.....but it will work this time!

Kys
>>
Funny how the only people who support Marxism are the exact opposite of who its trying to preach to.....bourgeois degenerate intellectuals

I mean just look at Lenin and Trotsky, literal jaks
>>
>>18255512
Only communism can save Europe from the Rothschilds
Liberalism and fascism = Rothschild conspiracies
>>
>>18256807
I'm not a John Smith since I'm a descendant of Sarmatian nobility(Polish, eastern european), not English. It doesn't change the fact that the average man is not particularly bright, not particularly well read and not particularly willing to actually manage things(this alone is the major reason the iron law of oligarchy is a thing). The idea of giving such average man any kind of power in some hypothetical scenario where he is actually willing to engage with it is laughable.
>>
>>18255512
Because communism is identical to late stage capitalism both a system in which a small select elite statecorp "the board' own everything and you the proletariaat goy "equally" own nothing. Communism is a bourg trick funded by Engels to trick midwit goy to speedrun towards late stage capitalism, look at china its literally LSC
>>
>>18256799
Work for start ups. Create a company and give your early startup employees all your shares.

You are free to create the reality you wish for
>>
>>18255567
>5'5 pockmarked, squeaky manlet.



[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.