We’ve all seen the “how could Rome survive” threads, but what about the Sassanids, how could a Zoroastrian Iran survive?
>>18256449Bump
>>18256449Permanent peace treaty with Rome prior to them both exhausting one another. More pressure on the affairs of the Arabian peninsula
>>18256976I also think Khosrow II Parviz never should have taken power since his policies had a long-term effect of weakening the empire.
>>18256449>how could a Zoroastrian Iran surviveEasy by converting to Shia "islam" like how it happened historically
>>18256449Even just preventing the anarchy following Khosrau's deposition and the years of civil wars which followed would have done them well. The survival of Shahin, Shahrbaraz and other Persian generals would also help. Obviously the biggest thing is just avoiding the war as a whole which crippled both of them. If not, the answer would be to win it, which Khosrau could have done multiple times as Heraclius offered to become a vassal state and cede the entire Near East over to him. If he accepted that deal and managed to avoid another war in the next decade, the Persians would have been in a vastly superior position than they would have been even before the war.
>>18257315>Even just preventing the anarchy following Khosrau's deposition and the years of civil wars which followed would have done them well. The survival of Shahin, Shahrbaraz and other Persian generals would also helpBro what the fuck. The latter is one of the key people reponsible for the anarchy
>>18256449>MFW there was a city literally called “Goyman.”
>>18256449Extermination of the Talmudic Rabbis.
>>18257848I think Khosrow II Parviz never talking power would also extend the empire’s lifespan
>>18256449When Islamic Arabs horde arrive. Fled north and Zoroastrian city-state in modern day Moscow.
>>18256449>Mad>Ball saggin'>Goy manwho the fuck writes this shit
>>18256976>muh exhaustion and shiet>ignores the fact the Arab fought bloody wars to unify the peninsula and a civil war right after it>ignores the fact majoos and byzantrannies outnumbered them 3x1>ignores the fact arabs were armed with rags and homemade weaponry while reekjeets and majoos had top quality weaponryReminder that reekshit byzantranny cockroach sissies armed and armored were slaughtered by the hundreds by a single Arab man who literally went into battle NAKED>Dhiraar was feared by the Byzantine army and was given the nickname The barechested Warrior or The barechested Champion for his tendency to fight without armor or upper garments. Diraar mostly known for killing three dozen enemy commanders and champions in the Battle of Ajnadayn, blocking the enemy retreat in the Battle of Yarmouk, and killing more than a hundred soldiers single handedly in the siege of Oxyrhynchus Bahnasa.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirar_ibn_al-Azwar
>>18256449Accept the peace deal with Heraculis where he basically gives you Egypt and Judea. Getting greedy is why the Persians fumbled.
>>18258291moscow was a part of the said horde
>>18256449It probably couldn't. Now, the Sassanid empire of Eranshar could maybe survive if they played their cards right. But Zoroastrianism would likely be supplanted by Christianity as the majority soon after. It simply was not an attractive or dynamic religion. Where in hell have you heard of anyone converting to Zoroaatrianism? The only place they even attempted (forced proletyzation) was in Armenia and that was a catastrophic failure.I'd like to hear these points refuted tjough
Sassanids were on their way out even before the Arab invasion. Likely there would've been a complete revolution and new Persian dynasty established if no Arab invasion occurred, or if the Sassanids somehow managed to fight it off (though I can think of no way they could've done so).
>>18256449By making concessions to Mazdakism and letting it evolve with Orthodoxy. There's a reason some of the earliest revolutionaries against Arab rule were crypto-Mazdakites like the Khurramites.I think when Mazdak and Mazdakites were slaughtered, it caused the lower classes to be disillusioned into the power of the mobed, and humorously the same pattern is occurring with Islam and mullahs, which Freemasons and Jews exploit to their advantage.
>>18258744Greater Iran and ancient Armenia had extreme syncretism with Zoroastrianism though, even the Sogdians had Ahura Mazda. Maybe not outright conversions but certainly a blending
>>18258802>into the powerwith the power*
>>18258802Kavad implemented literally all of Mazdak's reforms. He just killed the actual guys.>>18258806Armenia rapidly embraced Christianity (along with the rest of the Southwest Caucasus). Buddhism rapidly displaces Zoroastrianism and related syncretisms by the 5th century.
>>18258744>It simply was not an attractive or dynamic religionExcept Zoroastrianism was, Christianity wasn’t that popular in Iran as by the 6th century they were only less than 5% of the population. Iran never could have become Christian.
>>18258935Historically Buddhism tends to syncretize with local religions, just look at modern Japan for example. According to surveys Japan is both 70% Buddhist and 70% Shinto because Buddhism in Japan heavily syncretizes with Shinto. If Buddhism were to spread (which they wouldn’t), it wouldn’t be far-fetched to assume Buddhism wouldn’t syncretize with Zoroastrianism were it to spread to Iran.
>>18258942>Except Zoroastrianism was,It's complete failure at reconverting the Armenians seems to contradict this.>Christianity wasn’t that popular in Iran as by the 6th century they were only less than 5% of the population.Where do you get this number?This is my source, btw.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVa5diGYNhc>Historically Buddhism tends to syncretize with local religions, just look at modern Japan for example.Not when the other religion is expliticly exclusivist, like Zoroastrianism is.> If Buddhism were to spread (which they wouldn’t),But they did spread all into central Asia.
>>18258983Lower part meant for >>18258945
>>18258942zoroastrianism after mani was basically christianity: same tenants, same trinity, similar worship
>>18257314This but unironically. Shia Islam is one of the only Abrahamic worldviews that embraces pre-semitic traditions.
>>18257314Iran only became Shiite in the 1600s+
>>18259057>Iran only became Shiite in the 1600s+There were tons of shia sects and dynasties before this. Lets not repeat sunni victimhood myths
