I have started reading the KJV of the Bible as Christians say this is the most authentic and uncorrupted version
>>18276518i have started praying the rosary to help pope leo, israel, and the US in banishing the evils of abortion, islam, comunism, the narcos, and sodomy. the first hail mary was for pope leo to convert israel and the US, the second for israel to conquer the middle east, the third for trump to conquer all of the american continent. this totals 9 so the last hail mary is the traditional one. iirc protestants are allowed to pray the rosary so feel free to help.
>>18276518You will understand nothing. The ancient Hebrew did not speak the fancy/retarded way the KJV is written in.
Yes, the KJB is great and the standard>>18276564So was ancient English retard and yet you know what we're saying now.
>>18276579Nobody spoke like that in ancient English times.
>>18276557Islam will prevail over your evil and wickedness
>>18276672The worship of a cube is a retarded religion. Perhaps if you still recognized the one true living God then that heaven you long for might be a reward you'd someday see, but since you do not eternal hell is all you'll ever know.
>>18276672>>18276680Christianity and Islam are both going to be eradicated within 10 years.
>>18276518Compared to other Bible editions KJV is more complete and has a more direct approach, I can see why most E-christians like it so much
>>18276680You support baby killing zionists who sacrifice babies to mammon, you'll burn in jahannamhttps://muslimskeptic.com/2023/03/26/destroy-amalek/
>>18276672Mohammed was not a prophet of El Elyon.
>>18276518The KJV is the pure word of God, it's a miracle, I recommend looking at these links:https://truthischrist.com/seven/https://truthischrist.com/elton-anomaly-823543/https://truthischrist.com/70x7-kjb-code-jesus-is-the-son-of-god/www.youtube.com/shorts/qzHWrQ2DHhQ (How to Prove the Power of Christ in 60 Seconds)www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCsPy4CY6hIwww.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ919YomJjMwww.youtube.com/watch?v=pcvFX5uIRb4www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS78mFJcvhQ
Proof that the Bible is the word of God:https://truthischrist.com/seven/fcbaptist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Bible-proof.pdf1 Corin 15:3-4: “For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntc1 John 5:7: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."Romans 3:23: “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”Jesus Christ is God who has come in the flesh from heaven. He died as a sinless sacrifice for the sins of the whole world to save you from eternal hell, the punishment for your sin. He was buried, then resurrected and then ascended to heaven. John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 10:28: "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." Rom 10:9: “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."God wants to forgive you, but you have a choice: Do you choose the righteousness of God by receiving Christ? Your own righteousness can NEVER justify you or keep you saved because of your sin. Rom 5:9: “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” Salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, in His finished blood atonement. The gift of salvation can't be earned. Confess The Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in prayer, that you trust in Him and believe He atoned for your sins on the cross.Eph. 2:8-9: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”
>>18276518No it’s not. It’s a great work of English literature but it’s not the most accurate translation. I love the book though, especially the red letters which denote when Jesus Christ is talking. So classic and nostalgic for me who was raised in a Christian household.
>>18276906>it’s not the most accurate translationIt is. The modern Bibles are full of errors and contradictions, and people have been tricked into thinking they are better translations. They are not the pure word of God. Here's just some examples, you can find more in https://kjvcompare.com/:2 Samuel 21:19KJB"And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaare–oregim, a Beth–lehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver’s beam."NASB"And there was war with the Philistines again at Gob, and Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim the Bethlehemite killed Goliath the Gittite, the shaft of whose spear was like a weaver’s beam."Goliath was beheaded by David over 30 chapters ago in 1 Samuel 17:51. While the underlying Hebrew also says “Goliath”, the correct reading “brother of Goliath” is confirmed by the parallel passage in 1 Chronicles 20:5.-Mark 1:2Mark quotes two prophets, starting with Malachi 3:1 in Mark 1:2 before proceeding to quote Isaiah 40:3 in Mark 1:3. Modern Bibles suggest that Mark identified Malachi’s writing as Isaiah’s, which is an obvious error.-Hebrews 3:16KJBFor some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.NASBFor who provoked Him when they had heard? Indeed, did not all those who came out of Egypt led by Moses?Modern Bibles suggest all Israel provoked the Lord and were not able to enter the promised land. However, Joshua and Caleb did not provoke the Lord (Numbers 14:22-24), nor did others, according to the KJB, such as Eleazar the priest, who also entered the promised land (Numbers 3:32, Joshua 21:1).-Genesis 27:39In the KJB, Isaac blessed Esau. But in modern translations, he curses him, contradicting the Holy Ghost in Hebrews 11:20, which reads: By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau concerning things to come.Check https://kjvcompare.com/ it's disgusting how corrupt the modern "Bibles" are.
>>18276935>>18276906Here is some more:Hebrews 2:14If the devil “has” power over death (modern versions), then he still has it now- in the present moment which would contradict Revelation 1:18. If the devil “had” power over death (KJB), then the devil’s power over death ended when Jesus was crucified.-Luke 2:33Jesus did not have an earthly father as indicated by modern versions in this verse. This verse is narrated by Luke, and ultimately the Holy Ghost. Some like to point out that Mary calls Joseph the “father” of Jesus in Luke 2:48 when she is speaking to him, but Jesus corrects her on who his Father is in verse 49.-Luke 2:22Modern versions suggest the holy child Jesus had a sin nature and required purification by the law of Moses. This is an error. Only the mother needed purifying according to Leviticus 12:1-8. Moreover, that passage in Leviticus describes an atonement required for this purification. Jesus was sinless and never needed an atonement.-Deuteronomy 22:28In these modern versions, v.29 would imply that God’s law forced a woman to marry her rapist- an abominable conclusion entirely foreign to God and holy scripture. The KJB avoids this by distinguishing the crime of rape (explicitly marked by “force her” in vv.25-26, where the rapist is treated as a murderer and stoned to death) from the consensual situation here in v.28.Galatians 4:1According to modern versions, a child is equal to a slave.-Genesis 22:17The reading in modern versions contradicts Galatians 3:16, which says, “Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.”-God is not androgynous as some modern versions make him out to be here in Genesis 1:27 as well as Genesis 5:1. Not only is God addressed with masculine pronouns all throughout the Bible, Paul makes it clear in 1 Corinthians 11:7
>>18276518They also say that people have magic powers, so you shouldn't trust them for anything. Read the NRSVU, as it's the academic translation.
>>18276672Get Zutt-ed, like your pedo prophet.
>>18276518>"most authentic and uncorrupted version"The earliest New Testament manuscripts ever found were still written decades after Jesus, Paul, John the Revelator, etc... It's impossible to know how many changes were made, or how much text was lost, during that time.
>>18277776>It's impossible to know how many changes were made, or how much text was lost, during that time.Actually this isn't entirely true. Christ said, "And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail." (Luke 16:17) He also said, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." (Matthew 24:35)So we know none of it has been lost and we still have access to the original Old and New Testaments today. As to how many corrupt versions have been made since the inception of the originals (i.e. the received text), it's more of a guessing game there. But if you just use the received text, you do not have to be concerned with these other corruptions, and fortunately this is what the Authorized version or King James version of 1611 was based on.
>>18276672>Muhammad (Pajeets bust upon him) is visited by a demon >Recognizes this and runs from the cave to tell his wife he's gonna go get exorcised>She tells him it was totally an angel>Muhammad (Pajeets bust upon him) listens to a woman lol>Doesn't get exorcised and gets tricked by Satan later on in the Satan versesYour prophet could not discern and regularly made up revelations ad hoc to support his sinful way of life.
>>18276557Protestants are not allowed to pray the rosary, for it is superstition and idolatry.
>>18277889But how do we know those two verses weren't added or altered? And how do we know we're interpreting both correctly?
>>18278045>And how do we know we're interpreting both correctly?I don't know if you're interpreting anything. You seem to be a skeptic, possibly a radical skeptic who doesn't believe in anything. You could be wrong about your interpretation for all I know, assuming you even have one.>how do we know those two verses weren't added or altered?From the perspective of a believer, I can say that I have read the Bible and believe for good reason that it is true. I've read the Bible and agree, as it says, "these are the true sayings of God." This is exactly why I believe in the Bible in the first place, and is why I'm focusing on it in the first place.So, to answer your question, I've investigated the Bible and found it to be self-evidently true. That is why quoting these statements from Matthew and Luke is enough for me to say confidently that, since those inspired statements of Scripture are true, that means all of it is indeed preserved and has not been lost.Altered or corrupted copies of various kinds have also been made as well. But these alterations have not been perfectly preserved to all generations, since God wasn't behind them.As an aside, to look at the other approach to this: If you choose to disbelieve what the Bible says, that simply means you as a "skeptic" have chosen to reject the Bible a priori, that is, without giving it a chance.What it means is you simply assumed it couldn't be true. This doesn't have the same grounding as showing that it can't possibly be true, and it doesn't have any convincing power. It just means you (or some other skeptic) said, "I doubt it," without providing any actual reasoning that would convince anyone else. You are free to do so, but that mere statement likely wouldn't convince anyone else of anything, and seems really to be pointless. As far as I can tell... you might as well just not say anything, and might as well save everyone's time, if you really don't have anything of substance to say.
>>18277972He is a pakistani. He is dreaming about joining the zutts because he sees anal sex as the most pious and holy thing he could do. He wants to be a zutt.
>>18278078>The reason it's true is because I believe it is trueThis is not an valid or sound argument. I have read the bible entirely and it is not true, because it makes false statements. It is not due to "radical skepticism".
>>18278089>I have read the bible entirely and it is not true, because it makes false statements.Sure, that's what they all say, anon.
>>18278092>you're lying!I'm not. Try again.
>>18278089The Bible does not contradict itself, but you will find contradictions in all modern translations which you can see that they are actually not contradictions in KJV, because it is pure, and not corrupted like the modern translations: https://kjvcompare.com/https://nashpublications.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/King_James_Bible/Answers-to-70-Apparent-Discrepencies-in-the-KJB.pdf
>>18278218Yeah, it's possible he saw an apparent contradiction in one of the modern translations. Those are made by people who want to make it appear that there are and who are willing to translate things inaccurately to create that illusion, or occasionally by using corrupt sources deliberately.
>>18276904Reading your pic, I am reminded about those little details found in books like Ecclesiastes and Job. One thing the King James Version does for me because of its old fashioned language is it gets me to stop and consider what exactly is being said. It's harder to read, but that leads to less skimming over and more digestion of the material. For example, if a true baptized spirit filled believer follows the step by step, nuts and bolts mechanical instructions in 2 Peter 1:5-8, they will be glowing with radiance and love at the end of the process. To the blind or religious-for-show, or those with an attention deficit, these will just seem like flowery, poetic words. Nope. It's spiritual exercise that builds you up and makes you strong in the spirit.
>>18277889https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF0F8YjT1oghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI1yRTC6kGEA couple of must watch videos if you haven't seen them. The end of the second one goes into how rabbis conspired with scribes to alter one of the long genealogy lists in order to promote the idea that Shem is Melchizedek in order to discredit Jesus.It's possible to alter scripture, that's why Revelation has a warning against it. But it is difficult when there is widespread possession of unaltered scripture; the altered one gets recognized as incorrect.
>>18276518>I read the Bible>let me make a thread about itok? You have to put in more effort though.
>>18278218>The Bible does not contradict itselfYes, it does, and it also (more importantly) makes false statements about the world.Rabbits do not chew cud.There was not a global flood and all humans do not descend from a 6 person bottleeck, this has been mathematically disproved.There are hundreds of errors like this.>>18278257They are not "apparent"
>>18278575>Rabbits do not chew cud.It doesn't matter anyway, they don't have cloven hooves, so they are unclean. And to any ancient Israelite observing them, it probably looked like they were chewing the cud.>>18278575>There was not a global floodThere was, and there's enough evidence on youtube alone that proves it. You are willfully ignorant in order to fit in with the world.>>18278575>all humans do not descend from a 6 person bottleeck,8 person, and yes we doIt has been mathematically proven.
>>18278671>It doesn't matter anyway, they don't have cloven hooves, so they are unclean. And to any ancient Israelite observing them, it probably looked like they were chewing the cud.Explaining how it's wrong doesn't change it from being wrong.>There was, and there's enough evidence on youtube alone that proves it. You are willfully ignorant in order to fit in with the world.No, there wasnt, and not only is there no evidence, it has quite literally been disproved. There is no evidence on youtube, and there is no evidence in the actual world. You are just a fucking shit for brained retard who doesn't know a single thing about the world.>8 person, and yes we doNo, it hasn't. It has quite literally been disproved, the genetic diversity could not even in principle come from an 8 person bottleneck, the lowest effective population is several thousand. You just don't know a single thing about what you're talking about.
>>18278680>If I hold my hands over my ears and yell, the truth can't get me.>LALALALALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU>I'll also do some cursing, that's a cool trick.This is what you are doing.It's been proven that everyone has genes from a single woman, Noah's wife. Among many other proofs. But I know I'm not going to convince you.
>>18278702>If I hold my hands over my ears and yell, the truth can't get me.You are the one doing this. The fact that there is no global flood and that an 8 person bottleneck has been mathematically disproved. You just don't know what you're talking about because you're a shit for brained moron.>It's been proven that everyone has genes from a single woman, Noah's wife.No, mitochondrial eve is not the only woman, and she lived over 150,000 thousand years ago. There were other women around that we descend from, as the autosomal and nuclear DNA proves. The effective population of humans could not every have been as low as 8. You don't know a single thing about genetics. You should actually read a book on genetics if you want to talk about it.
>>18278709I'd assume the scientists are making many assumptions. For instance, they are probably assuming a lifespan of 80 years or so when the Bible says people lived for 500 years or more around the time of the flood. People didn't even start having kids until around age 130 or so in the early days in Genesis. That's what "Neanderthal bones" are, people who were hundreds of years old, that's why their brow ridges and skulls were so thick and sturdy. You know how ears and noses never stop growing? And they kept on having kids and their kids had kids and so on for the hundreds of years they lived.
>>18278728>I'd assume the scientists are making many assumptionsThey're not>For instance, they are probably assuming a lifespan of 80 years or so when the Bible says people lived for 500 years or more around the time of the flood. This is not true, and it does not matter. It would not decrease the effective population.>People didn't even start having kids until around age 130 or so in the early days in Genesis.This literally doesn't matter>That's what "Neanderthal bones" areNo, they arent. You're mentally ill and also very retarded. You do not actually know what you're talking about, you do not actually understand basic mathematics, genetics, geology, physics, anthropology, biology, or chemistry. You're just a shit for brained moron screaming that your jewish fairytale book is true, when it has been disproved, because youre a subhuman and a coward who's afraid of how reality actually works.Grow up.
>>1827873521 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
>>18278740None of this means a single thing. Mathematical proof are definitive, no one is "professing" to be wise, they actually are wise.Your bible has been objectively disproved, it is not the word of God, and thus quoting from it does not mean anything. Actually learn about basic mathematics, chemistry, genetics, geology, physics, and anthropology if you want to know how the world works, shit for brains.Grow up.
>>18278745>shit for brainsYou're chatting with someone who scored in the 99th percentile of Iowa test taker scores.
>>18278749Unlike you, I'm actually in the 99th percentile, which is why I can understand basic mathematics, genetics, and chemistry. Lying isn't going to make your shit for brains any less shit, and it isn't going to stop mathematical proofs from being true.Grow up.
>>18278751Well, I'm not lying.
>>18278754Then why can't you understand basic mathematics, genetics, chemistry, and geology?
>>18278755You have an oversimplified worldview where you think the scientists wouldn't lie to you in order to get funding and stay in the good graces of the establishment, if they weren't already corrupt to begin with in seeking out such a high status job in the eyes of this backwards world. It makes you feel safe. One has to have tunnel vision to get anything done in this dangerous world. Sacrifices have to be made. Imagine not tuning out the dangers of electricity and driving in a car, one would just stay in bed. But we take calculated risks in order to gain a reward. You have learned to tune out the voice of truth in order to get whatever believing the scientists awards you.
>>18278759>You have an oversimplified worldview where you think the scientists wouldn't lie to youNo, I can do the mathematics myself and see. So can anyone else, and you'd be able to as well if you actually had an IQ above 130. You don't.No, shit for brains, it is not the case that hundreds of milions of people are engaged in a grand global conspiracy and are all lying or wrong just because you're too much of a retard to learn basic math, chemistry, geology, and physics.>One has to have tunnel vision to get anything done in this dangerous world. Sacrifices have to be made. Imagine not tuning out the dangers of electricity and driving in a car, one would just stay in bed. But we take calculated risks in order to gain a reward. This is meaningless babble.>You have learned to tune out the voice of truth in order to get whatever believing the scientists awards you.This is objectively false and mentally ill shit for brained nonsense. No, buddy, it is not the case that all of use who can actually do math, understand chemistry, geology, physics, etc. are lying or wrong or engaged in grand conspiracy. What is actually happening, is you are a shit for brained moron in a cult, and your cult has been disproved, and you are crying and denying it instead of shutting up and actually learning the basics of mathematics, chemistry, geology, biology, anthropology, etc., to understand how the world actually works. This is because you do NOT actually have a high IQ, and you're a liar.Grow up.
>>18278765>IQ above 130I also have this. It was a requirement to be in the "gifted" program in school.
>>18278765>you do NOT actually have a high IQ, and you're a liar.I know the truth, and I know when I am telling you the truth. So, I also know that you are rejecting the truth. And in more ways than one.
>>18278774Then why can't you understand basic mathematics, chemistry, geology, genetics, physics, etc?>>18278777>I know the truthNo, you don't, as what you're saying is mathematically false, chemically false, geologically false, historically false, philosophically false, physically false, etc. Again, if you actually knew the truth and could actually do basic mathematics and understood these things, you'd know this. But you cant, because you don't, because you're not actually intelligent and you're a cult member.Your bible has been objectively disproved, and thus it is NOT the truth. This very basic, but you're not actually intelligent so you can not understand this.Grow up.
>>18278784You sound like a bot. Good day, sir bot. Now go ahead and make sure you get the last word in.
>>18278788I'm not a bot, nor do I sound like a bot. I'm going to keep repeating the actual truth so long as you continue to post disproved dogshit nonsense.Again, if you were ACTUALLY intelligent, why can't you understand the basic mathematics, chemistry, genetics, geology, etc. that has been proved which disproves the claims in the bible?The reason is, of course, because you are not actually intelligent, and youre in a cult.>"n-now I'm going to run away and call you a bot because I can't actually defend my position! If I 'allow' you to have the last word, then I win!"So you're also a coward. Pathetic.Grow up.
>>18276936>Deuteronomy 22:28>consensual situationEh.Your other points are all great. Thank you for posting them.
>>18278575>Rabbits do not chew cud.What rabbits and hares do is called “refection” or “coprophagy,” and it involves re-digesting food after it passes out of the body (in other words, rabbits eat their own feces). Rabbits are also known to constantly move their mouths, in a motion that looks extremely similar to the chewing motion of cows and other ruminants. What’s described in Leviticus 11:6 is meant for simple identification, not detailed scientific analysis.>There was not a global floodThere's a lot of evidences for a global flood, definitely not disprovenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNG7jwC4bxw&list=PLFIc5Y7xpsJKBfRg4GAu-BfNAHju4ENIo&index=90>>18279153If deut 22:25 already deals with what do when a woman is raped, using the word "force her". Why would Deuteronomy 22:28 deal with what kind of punishment is needed for a rape situation once again?Deut 22:26:"for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter:" Oh, but if that woman isn't married then all of a sudden it's completely okay and solved with 50 shekels? That just doesnt make any sense. There is a reason different words are used. "force her" is not the same as "lay hold", was the goat raped when it was lifted from the well? The words used was "lay hold" on the goat. (Matthew 12:11)It just makes more sense if you don't add things into the Bible that aren't there.
>>18278765>it is not the case that hundreds of milions of people are engaged in a grand global conspiracyIt absolutely is the case, and if you ever found out how, you'd have a panic attack.
>>18279253>It absolutely is the case, and if you ever found out how, you'd have a panic attack.No, it isn't. You can do the math yourself and study the chemistry and such yourself and see it's true, bud. You haven't even tried to.
>>18279200>There's a lot of evidences for a global flood, definitely not disprovenNo, there isn't.https://bibleinterp.arizona.edu/articles/flood357903https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=http://www.csun.edu/~vcgeo005/Nr38Reasons.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiu7qD38PeRAxUSGVkFHdcNLIoQFnoECAQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3iDztbYBq9ydzzVWOnyvBi
>>18279259NTA, but scientists lie to keep their job, and admit to it:Richard Lewontin of Harvard once made the following comment regarding this harsh reality…" We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, . . . in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated commitment to materialism. . . . we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counterintuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door. "https://download.timefortruth.co.uk/docs/Christian_Soldiers_Battle_Notes.pdf>>18279265>The Bible is wrong because it mentions miracles and theyre not scientific>Also were just going to ignore all the evidence that points to the flood like seashells on top of mountains etc, and just say that is a result of billions and billions of years of evolution or whatever, that solves everything!
>>18279200To me it reads like if you "taphas" (תָפַשׂ) a guy's daughter, you have to pay some sort of bride price and you are obligated to take care of her for eternity. Which might be a good deal for a girl in that position and in that time period. If her major asset was her virginity it is better to have a bitter wage-slave than a corpse. Anyways I'm a little hesitant to call something I might not understand abominable especially if I might be taking God's name in vain in so doing.
>>18279259What math? No sequestered freelance geologist has the tools and manpower to test the age of the Earth, it's all under controlled conditions and ordained groups of "people". You don't even need to factor a mass millions group into the equation for that, it's all exclusively pocket groups.
>>18279284You don't know what Lewontin said. You guys cherry pick quotes all the time, the fact that you're using a christian propaganda source instead of his actual quote shows exactly the type of behavior you do.>>18279284>>The Bible is wrong because it mentions miracles and theyre not scientificNo, it's wrong because the mathematics does not work without simply saying the math doesn't matter, which is objectively wrong and not an argument. You do not get to say 2 = 5 in your argument buddy, sorry. >seashells on top of mountains This is due to orogeny of the earth's crust. This is entirely explained in the field of geology, you are showing you have no idea what youre talking about.The earth being billions of years old is proved with basic chemistry.https://pubs.usgs.gov/of/1986/0110/report.pdf Again, it is not the case that everyone who can actually do math and understands chemistry is wrong. Its that you don't know math, chemistry, geology, physics, etc.
>>18279340>No sequestered freelance geologist has the tools and manpower to test the age of the Earth, it's all under controlled conditions and ordained groups of "people".No, it isn't. You literally don't know what the method even is. It's done by university students to learn how to do it.
>>18279349No, they can't, they literally can only source their understanding from other sources that were passed down from the controlled groups that I already mentioned. There needs to be groups to "determine" the data fully, you're not going to have random university students doing it on that scale.
>>18276518Read the foreword. They will tell you themselves what it is. Use AI to scan it if you have to.
>>18279378>No, they can't, they literally can only source their understanding from other sourcesNo, this is not how it works. You do not understand the chemistry or the method, you literally don't know how it's doneAnyone can learn the chemistry and perform the experiments. >There needs to be groups to "determine" the data fully, you're not going to have random university students doing it on that scale.No, there doesn't. Literally anyone can learn to measure half lives and such. You're retarded conspiracy is not even remotely close to how it works in reality. You do not know what you're talking about at all.The earth is over 4 billion years old. You're going to have to come to terms with this.
>>18279344>You guys cherry pickSo when you post a document that only coitizes the flood and only shows evidences against it, and no evidences supporting it, that's not cherry picking?Like for example I can post something like this:https://answersingenesis.org/the-flood/global/evidences-genesis-flood/Here is evidence that the flood happened according to mathematics and science, is that 2=5?You can read from the Bible all kinds of facts about the world that were not confirmed until hundreds or 1500+ years later, how is that explained by science?Bible describes the hydrologic cycle in Ecclesiastes 1:7: “All the rivers run into the sea, yet the sea is never full. To the place the streams come from, there they return again.” This was a concept of the water cycle that scientists would not formally understand until centuries later.Job 26:7 speaks of the Earth being “suspended in space,” a concept that modern science has confirmed through astronomy. At a time when many cultures believed the earth was supported by animals or stood on a foundation, this verse describes the earth as suspended in empty space.Before 1930s people didn't even think the universe had a beginning like Genesis 1:1 says. Psalm 102:25,26 tells us three times that the earth is wearing out like a garment. This is what the Second Law of Thermodynamics (the Law of Increasing Entropy) states.Jeremiah 33:22 (written 2,500 years ago): “As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, nor the sand of the sea measured…”The Bible asserts there are countless stars (described here as the “host of heaven”). When this statement was recorded, no one knew how vast the stars were, as fewer than 1,100 were observable. That’s as many as Ptolemy was able to catalog in The Almagest. Now we know that there are countless billions of stars and that they cannot be numbered.Leviticus 13:46 was written 3,500 years ago, while Laws of quarantine were not instigated by modern man until the seventeenth century.
>>18279815>So when you post a document that only coitizes the flood and only shows evidences against it, and no evidences supporting it, that's not cherry picking?Explanations as to how the flood could not have happened by showing the math doesn't work and the science is wrong is not cherrypicking.>answers in genesisWorthless. Buddy, the earth has been P-R-O-V-E-D to be over 4 billion years old. You can read the fucking experiments and math yourself that P-R-O-V-E-S it. You choose not to do this because you're in a cult.And no, the bible describes the creation of a flat earth with a solid dome. It does not describe a geocentric earth that spins around the sun. Even this claim is completely wrong.
>>18279825>Buddy, the earth has been P-R-O-V-E-D to be over 4 billion years old.That does not contradict the Bible, neither does it prove that flood didn't happen about 5000 years ago.>And no, the bible describes the creation of a flat earth with a solid dome.You have to really make a stretch to make it sounds like the Bible supports a flat earth, such as "four corners of the earth" meaning 4 literal corners, which is just crazy.
>>18279825>You can read the fucking experiments and math yourself that P-R-O-V-E-S it.You really think angelic beings who fell aren't smart enough to forge fake results? That they didn't have enough time to hold dominion over all civilization and shaping how it progressed? There's going to come a time when they aren't going to be merely a hypothetical fairy tale for you. You'll see.
>>18278485>A couple of must watch videos if you haven't seen them.Already seen. I've refuted them on here before.The pyramids video at 18:43 admits that the Septuagint is not perfect.So the main claim that it "makes more sense" to follow the Septuagint timeline for Shem-to-Abraham is not based on any kind of impossibility argument. Saying that fathers dying before their sons is simply "the way of life" (9:21) is not a disproof. Arguing that 30,000 workers were needed to build Babel is a baseless assumption in itself. Life doesn't have to be made to look neat on a graph chart, either.Arguing that multiple witnesses are always better is turning a qualitative argument into a quantitative one. If the witnesses being used disagree, or one is merely a copy of another, they aren't providing independent verification of anything.Claiming that the originals are lost today already contradicts Psalm 12:6-7, which says that the words of the LORD will be preserved "from this generation for ever", and it contradicts the words of Isaiah as well, see below:>"As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever." - Isaiah 59:21See also Deut. 29:29, Prov. 30:5, Ps. 119:160, Isaiah 40:8, Mt. 5:18, Mt. 24:35, and 1 Peter 1:23-25. The original, uncorrupted word of God will always be preserved for every generation, never lost. Doubting all of that means rejecting the Bible itself. If you don't think these prophetic statements are true even to this very moment, then you don't hold that the Bible is the word of God, and if so, then why argue over any of this at all. Denying the prophecies implies that no Bible on earth meets the standard, essentially contradicting the Bible itself in all the above passages. (1/2)
>>18279850>Relatively complete manuscripts of the LXX postdate the Hexaplar rescension and include the Codex Vaticanus from the 4th century CE and the Codex Alexandrinus of the 5th century.The Hexapla was edited by Origen in the 3rd century AD. The original Septuagint meanwhile was reportedly a translation only of the books of Moses. The other books of the so-called Septuagint Old Testament were in reality translated later. Furthermore, there is no reason to think that the version of the Septuagint we have now is the same as that which was translated in pre-New Testament times. The Septuagint as we know it today was produced after the New Testament. It is widely acknowledged that the version known today was edited by Origen. Before Origen all we have are scattered fragments.The editors of the Septuagint apparently thought to modify the supposed error in Genesis 46:26 and Exodus 1:5 to say "75 people," based on Acts 7:14. And they even added a false explanation for the extra 5 people being the grandsons of Joseph. There's a big problem with that idea though. Acts 7:14 mentions that Joseph invited those 75 people into Egypt. They don't include him or his sons who were born there. The real reason for the different number is that Joseph's family is not counted, but Joseph's brother's wives are all counted there, but not in Genesis 46 by comparison. They bring the count up to 75 total, even with Joseph and his sons removed. Even more revealing, the editors forgot to change the number in Deuteronomy 10:22! All versions still say 70 in Deuteronomy 10:22. Even the Greek Septuagint still says 70 in that verse. This is a good reason to believe that someone (possibly Origen) took the number 75 from Acts 7, and then tried to shoehorn that number in Genesis 46:26 and Exodus 1:5... but whoever did this forgot about Deuteronomy 10:22 since it still says 70 even in the Septuagint. I could also go on about other Septuagint passages, but this should not be overlooked.
>>18279850Wow, you are very stubborn against the truth!
>>18279873According to the Bible, in John 17:17 it says, "Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."That's what I believe in, anon.
>>18279833>about 5000 years ago.What disproves this is that civilizations existed then and they didn't go anywhere. Genetics disproves a 2 person origin, a 6 person bottleneck, etc. The current diversity of animals literally could not have every been bottlenecked to a 2 animal origin 5000 years ago. You're honestly not a serious man to continue to believe this. You are unironically a child screaming that the tooth fairy is real.>>18279844>You really think angelic beings who fell aren't smart enough to forge fake results?Chemical reactions aren't a lie by satan to trick you into thinking the earth is billions of years old. the literal tens of millions of athematicians, chemists, physicists, geologists, etc., are not engaged in a grand conspiracy to lie about the age of the earth. You are mentally ill.
>>18276518>>18276672You should get the Doctrine and Covenants, it is like a new Qur'an, and it makes it so that the Bible and Qur'an are tied and can make sense together.
>>18276518>translation>authentic
>>18277972>visited by a demon>said demon instructs to worship one god, the creator>fast, give charity, make pilgrimage What, man? I thought “a house divided cannot stand”? What sort of demon calls to worship God alone and do good deeds?
May God have mercy on our souls
>>18276518Septuigant and The Tyndale Bible are the most authentic as far as i've heard since KJV is masoretic based and has significant differences compared to the septuigant on key issues such as prophetic texts like psalms and what not and then later on when Jesus quotes the bible namely the old testament prophesies you can't find those in the KJV old testament because jews deleted them or altered them
>>18276518Great choice.
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>>18283951That’s not even Pascal’s wager.
