>>18277843
His love for you will not spare you from God's commitment to justice. Just like a father who loves his son will nevertheless punish him for acting wickedly.

>>18277844
>His love for you will not spare you from God's commitment to justice.

We are under the curse of original sin because of what two (2) people did thousands of years ago. If that is justice then North Korea inflicting generational punishment is justice.

>>18277844
If a human father behaved the way Yahweh is described as behaving, we would remove the child from the home.

>>18277843
The god of the bible is not real. Stop making these worthless threads.

Godjaks and the ensuing butthurt they cause are the only good religion posts on /his/

keep it up OP

>>18277860
Seconded. But I also like the AHHHHH I'M BURNING posting and also when some random apostate from the midwest out-theologises a 36 year old sexless online tradcath of two years.

>>18277846
We're fucked up like if a plant got fucked up and all it's descendants were fucked up because of it. The cure is Jesus. Why would someone not want to be cured?

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>>18277848
>t.

>>18278389
>leave food out and tell your kids not to eat it
>they eat it
>NOW YOU MUST DIE
>NEVERENDING TORTURE
>I LOVE YOU BUT I HAVE TO DO IT

>>18278643
It was a trap, the kids should've listened. Good thing everyone alive still has a chance to repent and receive supernatural spiritual help from God to behave in a way that pleases Him and themselves.

>>18278643
Maybe it's like aspirin and you shouldn't take it before you're 12.

>>18278651
>a loving father set an inheritable eternal damnation trap knowing his kids would fall for it
wut

>>18278775
You don't get to judge God. You cannot apple human morality to Him.

the other godjak thread is better

>>18278778
then nor do you get to erroneously call it love

>>18278778
We are completely capable of judging the bible. You're just retarded and don't understand basic reasoning.

>>18278786
well well, how nice you admit bible truly is the word of God by which he can be judged

>>18278800
There is nothing in >>18278786 which admits that the bible is truly the word of god. It's simply the correct statement that the bible, like anything else, can be judged by people.
Are you stupid?

>>18278802
but you wanted to judge God, not ancient Jews

God is pure Good. He is literally incapable of sinning or being Evil.

>>18278806
No, I said "the bible". The character in the bible is not God, and thus you are not judging god by pointing out how the character called god in the bible does silly things.
>>18278810
contradictory and incoherent.

>>18278806
well well, how nice you admit bible truly is the word of ancient Jews

>>18278811
>No, I said "the bible". The character in the bible is not God, and thus you are not judging god by pointing out how the character called god in the bible does silly things.

sorry, my mistake, I should've known this is just another DA J00Z thread

>>18278813
nothing weird there, Jews are G-d's chosen people

>>18278778
Except when it aligns with human morality, then all of a sudden it's proof that god loves us. How convenient.

>>18278814
I don't care about da jooz either. I'm pointing out that the bible is not the word of god, and we are completely able to judge the bible.

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>>18278816
why did you only censor god for this post specifically and not the other ones

>>18277843
It's very amusing and tragic when you realize all Christian theology and religion is just post hoc justifications for Mohel Saul's scam. I guess it's testament to how effective self evident lies are as a social control technology.

>>18278823
playful piety, I guess

>>18277844
>being tortured for all eternity because you stole a candy bar as a kid is justice
Christians are insane.

>>18277843
>nigga thanks infernalism is real as he can’t understand scripture.
>other niggas under this thread who also can’t understand scripture agree with him.
/thread

What actually happens is annihilationism lol
An all loving god wouldn’t cause suffering on someone for eternity, anyone who tells you otherwise are brainwashed mega church retards

>>18279174
>annihilationism
Not loving either. If he was truly loving he would save everyone and let them take as long as they need.

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>>18279161
>stealing is LE GOOD

>>18279185
>God is not just, he is a retard which wants too much control over us. I would rather go to hell than heaven!!!
Lives life of sin and practically worship the self and rejects god and wants nothing to do with him.
Dies.
>God sees how much he hates him and want nothing to do with him through his life, he respects his choice of refusals of his grace and doesn’t want to force him with him and is in-turn gives him eternal separation from himself. (I.e. just the materialistic understanding of death (different opinions may say otherwise))
>w-what, i can’t just do nothing throughout my entire life and reject hid but gain all the benefits.
>God Dham it, fuck you god your unjust and a retared tranny

>>18279242
>w-what, i can’t just do nothing throughout my entire life and reject hid but gain all the benefits.

Annihilating someone because they didn't learn everything they needed to in a short, finite life is not loving. It is at best indifferent and negates any value the person did have.

>>18279257
You are questioning God's character tsts not a good look in my book

>>18279264
>tsts not a good look in my book

Why? Why should questioning anyone's character be off limits?

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retard god thesis has yet to be refuted btw

>>18279278
Because its a waste of time and boring like debating we dont do that shit here

>>18277844
Billions of people throughout history will suffer unimaginable torment forever but atleast justice is happy :). Im sure there was no better outcome than this

>>18277844
In your ontology, he is responsible for creating fallible beings in the first place. He would be at fault more than any of the beings which he is said to judge.

>>18279888
Checked.

>>18277843
the only people who really believe in eternal torture hell are abusers who use it to scare others or people who are afraid and confused, neither of which are reliable

>>18279904
even in the case of universalism, Christianity would still be an evil ontology.

>>18279185
Noah preached for 120 years the message of repentance and converted no one.
You're stalling. This is why we can't have nice things. People who love God want to get along. You can go someplace else where people want to cheat and one up and take advantage of each other.

I'm at the finish line here in the Kingdom of Heaven. You guys are procrastinating over there with the cool kids because you think there is something better than the Kingdom of Heaven. I'm sitting in a secured chair playing musical chairs and all you want to do is dance.

>>18277843
Aaaaand the flames just got a little hotter.

>>18278643
God literally came down to earth to undo the sin himself.

>>18278778
Well his morality does seem pretty imhuman at times


>At a lodging place on the way, the Lord met Moses and was about to kill him. But Zipporah took a flint knife, cut off her son’s foreskin and touched Moses’ feet with it. “Surely you are a bridegroom of blood to me,” she said. So the Lord let him alone. (At that time she said “bridegroom of blood,” referring to circumcision.)

exodus 4:24

>>18279935
Noah didn't exist.

>>18279965
16 And all the sons of men that were left upon the earth, became exhausted through evil on account of the rain, for the waters were coming more violently upon the earth, and the animals and beasts were still surrounding the ark.


17 And the sons of men assembled together, about seven hundred thousand men and women, and they came unto Noah to the ark.


18 And they called to Noah, saying, Open for us that we may come to thee in the ark--and wherefore shall we die?


19 And Noah, with a loud voice, answered them from the ark, saying, Have you not all rebelled against the Lord, and said that he does not exist? and therefore the Lord brought upon you this evil, to destroy and cut you off from the face of the earth.


20 Is not this the thing that I spoke to you of one hundred and twenty years back, and you would not hearken to the voice of the Lord, and now do you desire to live upon earth?

>>18279988
Spamming verses from a book that he just told you he didn't believe in is a questionable debate tactic.

>>18280013
18“He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”

>>18280020
You are rely bad at evangelizing.

>>18280022
Oh yeah?

>>18278643
>leave food out
>tell anon not to eat it
>he eats it
>beat his grandchildren as punishment

>>18280013
This. I dont even read the bible verse spam and i dont think anyone who doesnt have weapons grade autism does. Its screaming into the void

>>18277843
Annihilationism is the more sensical interpretation anyway.

>>18277844
>Just like a father who loves his son

>actually anon, your parents love you infinitely and want nothing more than to have a relationship with you and want your very soul to be saved instead of damned for infinity time, they are literally watching you 24/7 right next to you but will never ever ever ever ever appear or call you you just gotta trust me bro, now go and donate money to us and work for 80 years and never rebel and destroy european religious culture while not touching arab or jewish culture that says your god is boiling in shit in hell and his mother is a whore, all of this only until you die and theeeeeeen i will give you everything and everything will be fixed just trust me bro teehee

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>>18277846
>We are under the curse of original sin because of what two (2) people did thousands of years ago
>justice
Strawman argument. Inheritance of original sin is not about justice and is not punitive. Rather, original sin is an inheritance of a wounded nature. Any inheritance of guilt is merely derivative. The fall of man is simply a natural consequence of what Adam and Eve did. The transgression in Eden wounded man's condition and through that man lost something essential. Man was created with sanctifying grace, preternatural gifts and supernatural life. But through the fall we lost these gifts, and most devastating of all it severed our union with God.

>>18279161
Strawman argument. Stealing a candy bar as a kid is a venial sin, and a venial sin does not result in loss of salvation.

>>18279898
You're basically arguing a modernist anti-natalist perspective that non-existence is better than existence, which is an absurd position to hold. Free will implies fallibility. Without free will the universe would merely be a deterministic simulation, rather than creation, and it would serve no purpose, which is actually what atheist materialists promulgate. And besides, God created man, and he bears man's fallibility with us and transforms it. Think of it, in a display of ultimate humility the Creator of the Universe incarnated into his own creation, took on human nature, then suffered the most unjust, cruel and torturous death at the hands of his own creations, all so that the fall of man could be reversed. This is the supreme manifestation of divine love.

>>18279961
SAAAR

>>18281383
They very much were against Jewish religious culture though, burned Talmuds, etc. The Jews were just a lot more stubborn about it (And the Christians more lenient due to their usefulness). It's kind of the only thing they had.

>>18280289
So the people who believe in no afterlife have no afterlife?

>applying modern liberal morality to a supereme creator being

this is why being an atheist openly is mocked

>unquestioningly kneels to a foreign deity who demands bizarre nonsensical things and tells them that they are born evil for actions they had no hand in
this is why being religious is dying rapidly in the first world

every zoomer in the west that i know is some sort of deist a la 18th century Illuminism or a tradcath, being atheist is just for commies or redditors >>18282330

>>18282307
The Supreme Being who created all things wants us to cover half the world in wheat fields and factories for mass-producing whole wheat bread, and he wants us to cover the other half of the world in small household-size electric toasters for toasting that bread. And as much of the bread as we can afford to spare should be subsequently gathered into a great pile and ejected directly into the sun on an ongoing basis. We should become better and better doing at this until we can completely automate the process, and then we should gracefully die out to spare the great machine the wasted energy of feeding and housing us. I know this because it was revealed to me in a vision, and several miracles were performed right before my eyes confirming the vision although you may not have seen them. And if it seems like a strange thing for the Supreme Being to want, well, that's just your mistake for thinking that you should be able to infer the will of the Supreme Being from your own puny human sense of right and wrong.

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>>18282391
Well obviously, such being has already spawned and came back from the future and opened pandora's box for such a thing to happen, starting infinite positive feed back loops for his benifit.

do you think your puny atheism wasn't in his plans?

>>18282330
who or what are you quoting?

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>>18277843
>Trying to make sense of religiosity.
You are dumb.

>>18277843
>if God exists why Jesus is mean
God's existence does not mean you should accept Christianity, retard.

>>18278778
Calling it love is also judging it, you buffoon, you absolute candlestick

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>>18283105
At this point, I start to think that atheists are just traumatized former Christians who think that a creation event, the non-existence of lesser deities, but the existence of an all-encompassing, primordial being. or the inherent metaphysics of things cannot exist because their fathers beat them as children.
There's a huge world outside your Christian cultural bubble, you idiot.
>>18283109
Love/good, like light, is a real thing, you dimwitted fish monger.
If love exists beyond humanity, then it must exist beyond our senses.

>>18283110
>love is a real thing
So is cruelty and malice, they are values that humans and some animals have. Like orcas.

>>18283117
animals do not have any agency.
And yes, the death is also truth, you have to accept that you will die.

Fedora are such cringe faggots.

>>18283105
wrong. scripture refutes you.
>"For God so loved the world, as to give his only begotten Son; that whosoever believeth in him, may not perish, but may have life everlasting."
John 3:16

>>18283117
>So is cruelty and malice
>thing
nope. aquinas refutes you on this. love/good has ontological existence. evil has no ontological existence as such. it's a privation, that is to say evil is merely the absence of good

>"Evil is not a being, but a privation of being."
St. Thomas Aquinas

>>18283128
and why should I believe in scripture, godless heathen?
Atheists are so funny, they disparage monotheists all the time then they quote the scripture like a christian because all of their point is that their father beat them as a child once and then they started to hate their daddy. They are still christian in mentality.

>>18283128
Aquinas writing about something does not make it true. Either values exist or they don't. And seeing as we can't show someone a microgram of love or malice, they exist only in the choices we make. Everyone has made a choice out of love and a choice out of malice, even if only as a child. We both understand those feelings.

>debating Christcuck scripture

Reminder there are a bajillion competing religions and yours has a sum total of zero factual proofs just like the rest of them. Hope you picked the right one and don’t end up under the fiery lash of Allah or in one of the ten thousand Buddhist hells. I’m religious btw.

>>18283134
>And seeing as we can't show someone a microgram of love or malice, they exist only in the choices we make.
This presupposes that only physical entities exists, which is refuted by the very fact that we have consciousness, awareness, and emotions that not describable by physical quantities, as you concede. If what you were saying was true, then an AI girlfriend would harbor love simply by the choices executed by the algorithm. Moreover, because an AI is 100% describable by physical laws and quantities (as its nothing more than complex circuity made of silicon and metal with low voltages and high frequencies), the love expressed would be even more real than human love, according to your claim.

>>18277849
If we were not created how is everything including ourself so well designed?

>>18283136
Buddha isn't a god, it's a title.

>>18283142
Just because abiogenesis is such an absurdly impossible event doesn’t mean that your specific Jewish god created the entire universe. Also humans are NOT well designed, we have opposable thumbs and walk upright which is cool, everything else about the design of humans blows hard.

>>18283145
No shit retard get your reading comprehension checked

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>>18283153
You said "buddha hells", that doesn't even make sense.

>>18283149
You're being ridiculous. Our bodies and what it does and what it's capable of just randomly happened?
Let me ask you something, what made picrel know to look like a leaf that is also around it's enviroment if not by design?

>>18283155
I said “Buddhist hells” as in the hells as described in the religion of Buddhism. Can you even read? Or are you an ESL ass dipshit?

Also you are strawmanning me. I agree that the universe didn’t pop out from atheist nothing and life randomly occurred. However the design of the human body objectively sucks. Regardless, none of this proves that your Jewish god is the one and only god.

>>18283158
This is the problem you're having is you don't know what Naraka is. It's not eternal. It just depends on how much of a stupid shithead you were and even when you're alive you experience Naraka.

>>18283158
>Also you are strawmanning me. I agree that the universe didn’t pop out from atheist nothing and life randomly occurred. However the design of the human body objectively sucks. Regardless, none of this proves that your Jewish god is the one and only god.
You didn't answer my question. How did that species know exactly what kind of leaf to look like in it's enviroment if not by design?
How did it do that?

>>18283161
Thanks for not addressing any elements of my post.

>>18283164
I did though, it's not my fault you don't understand what you babble about.

>>18283163
I literally agree that the universe is intelligently designed. You can’t read.

>>18283166
No you're not because there are things not designed also. There are many things in the cosmos that happen for no reason at all.
Somethings happen we have no way of explaining like from the experiments of light photons behave differently when we're looking at it vs when we don't. Like it behaves in a weird way when we're around vs when we're not.

>>18283138
Conciousness is physical, physical damage to the brain and drugs can change it. Saying conciousness transcends the physical is saying drugs are magic.

>>18283187
Magic is just a word we have dismembered and say different terms now.

>>18283200
Fine, we can use supernatural/transcends the physical/voodoo/ any word not based in provable reality you wish. All of them are equally absurd.

>>18283202
You're being dramatic, this is why I hate interacting with edgy people.
I was referring to things like the different forms of studying plants, animals, chemicals reactions and what those components can turn into, medicine, surgery.
Not everything that was labeled as magic was wrong.
Hell, these days people blame things on their diagnosed mental shit instead of demons. It's all the same shit. We're just rewording things.
There's also the whole placebo effect, which science still hasn't been able to explain. People still wanting to believe in certain things. People taking risks for no reason.

>>18283202
To add onto >>18283204
There's women who have abortions, that's no different than human sacrifice in hopes to bettering your life.

>>18283204
Testing and experimenting with all those things are physical interactions, we can prove them and replicate them. That's the entire point. We stop the witch doctor shit and alchemy turns into chemistry, next thing you know we can create amazing things like medicine, strong foundations for gigantic buildings and material we can build planes out of that carry us around the world in a matter of days. With alchemy we were looking at how to turn our piss into a rock that makes you immortal. Acknowledging reality is the diffeence. It can give us untold amounts of value. Cast of your mystic shackles.

>>18283207
To adress this loose point, I believe abortion to be immoral. Killing your children is bad, even if they live inside your body.

>>18283209
>We stopped the witch doctor shit
No we didn't, people themselves stopped. It still goes on in Africa.

>>18283211
Yeah and africa is such a global bastion of live saving technology and rational thought ain't it? No one if miserable in africa.

>>18283210
I'm talking about human sacrifices. It's no different than abortions.
Around the world, people would make sacrifices to some god or deity in hopes to bettering their lives. Women also do it these days because they claim having a kid would ruin theirs.
It's no different.

>>18283213
Anon I feel like you're here just to argue, I was just pointing out witch doctors are things like that are still very much alive.
There are plenty of westerners who still believe in made up stuff across the board.

>>18283209
Cooking and baking could be considered alchemy. Making new material can as well.
It's just different wording.

>>18283214
Me too, doing it for a god or for social/financial reasons doesn't make a difference for me. It's bad.

>>18283215
And they do so to their own detriment.

Ofc im here to argue, did you see the god as a basedjak in the OP? What are you here? A support group? Getting 1 person to live for their own happiness instead of a supernatural dictator makes me happy.

>>18283217
Those are chemistry.

>>18283219
Which wasn't a word back then. Jesus christ how many times do I have to repeat myself here?

>>18283218
Okay I'm done conversing with you. Not here to feed your addictions.

>>18283220
It wasnt a word, but it was an action. Doing replicable experiments so you can replicate a delicious recipe. Alchemy, in it's very definition requires the use of mysticism to achieve a spiritual goal. Cooks used chemistry as long as humans cooked food. Just like smiths used chemistry to make steel. Them not knowing what to name it doesn't make it not real.

>>18283220
>doing something that makes you happy = addiction
Not everything is crack cocaine, lmao. You think diogenes and socrates were addicts because they enjoyed debate?

>>18283221
You do know people did pray and worship gods while making certain dishes right?

>>18283226
And that did nothing to change the chemistry, it achieved a spiritual need for the actor. It's combining alchemy and chemistry. You can leave out the prayer and still end up with the dish. We can both replicate that right now by making a dish twice and praying for one of them.

>>18283228
>And that did nothing to change the chemistry
Way to miss the point entirely.

>>18283230
What difference does the prayer make then? Please elaborate.

>>18283231
Oh my god you're insufferable.
I'm saying, by definition of alchemy, if magic is involved "meaning prayers, chants, rituals" it's considered alchemy by definition you absolute autistic fuck.

>>18283232
>Trying to argue in order to change someone's mind in debate? How autistic :^)
Boring. I've shown you the difference between chemistry and alchemy. Of course a lot people who did not have access to both conflated and combined the two. Even those people knew that if you did the physical chemistry different, the result would be changed physically. If you did the mystical part differently, it would be tainted spiritually, but that doesn't actually change anything provable. Only the emotions of the actor would be changed, like a germophobe washing his hands because the thought of something icky.

>>18283234
I'm not reading this, I'm leaving this thread you people are dumb as fuck.

>>18283235
You've called me dumb as fuck and autistic as fuck. All I've did was call you boring. Grow up before you end up in a bubble, only nodding yes at your tribe.

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>pizza delivery is going to be automated in the future
You have to consider that God might have many other planets that are at different stages of development.

>>>/ck/21824675
>>>/ck/21824711

>>18278778
what the fuck is an apple human

>>18278775
>still alive
>doesn't repent
>"wtf god stop trapping me"
you're not trapped. you know what you need to do and aren't doing it because you're mad.
you're going where you choose to go.

>>18281659
>will implies fallibility
It doesn't, especially with the attributes you give to your god. You're an idiot who worships an evil god.

>>18280075
It's more like debt.
Your grandfather put you in debt.
The debt collectors are now coming for you.
Everyone will ultimately die but those who forgive debts will come back.

Or, a moving car.
God made a car, and a driver, and you.
The driver ditched the vehicle and put a brick on the gas peddle.
You're still inside.
God will respawn you on the road in a perfect vehicle if you demonstrate self-control unlike the ditcher.
But you won't because you'd rather believe you're above it.

>>18284665
If goodness exists, as opposed to the evil god, then why doesn't it kill the evil god?

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A god who is all love is a perverted god. Love without hate is not real love. If you love cleanliness, you will hate dirt. If you love your wife and kids, you will hate anything that tries to harm them.
The important thing to remember about God is His holiness. The love of God is rooted in God's holiness. All of God's love, in this age, is vested in the righteous life and sacrifice of Jesus Christ. Apart from Christ, God loves no man (John 3:16; Rom. 5:8); apart from Christ, the sinner abides in God's wrath (John 3:36: “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”).

We sin because we are "in Adam," (Rom. 5:19); we die because we are "in Adam" (1 Cor. 15:22; Rom. 5:17). But when a man receives Christ as his Saviour, he is no longer "in Adam"; he is then "in Christ" (1 Cor. 12:13, 27; Eph. 5:30).


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qzHWrQ2DHhQ (How to Prove the Power of Christ in 60 Seconds)
https://truthischrist.com/seven/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCsPy4CY6hI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ919YomJjM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcvFX5uIRb4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS78mFJcvhQ

https://truthischrist.com/elton-anomaly-823543/
https://truthischrist.com/70x7-kjb-code-jesus-is-the-son-of-god/

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Proof that the Bible is the word of God:
https://truthischrist.com/seven/
fcbaptist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Bible-proof.pdf

1 Cor 15:3-4: “For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntc

1 John 5:7: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

Romans 3:23: “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”
Jesus Christ is God who has come in the flesh from heaven. He died as a sinless sacrifice for the sins of the whole world to save you from eternal hell, the punishment for your sins. He was buried, then resurrected and ascended to heaven and will return soon to condemn the world. You can't be justified to God your own way, so do you choose the righteousness of God by receiving Christ? Rom. 5:9: “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.”

Salvation is by grace through faith (Eph. 2:8-9) in the one, final, effectual sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ (Heb. 10:8-12) dying in your place as a substitutionary offering for sin (Rom. 5:1-10). The blood atonement He made for you is finished, so if you have received the Lord Jesus by faith (John 1:12) in your heart, you're forgiven of all your sins and are saved, once for all; finally and forever. The gift of salvation can't be earned, it is a gift. Rom 10:9: “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."

Eph. 2:8-9: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”

After you're saved, you are no longer an enemy of God, and nothing will separate you from His love (Romans 8:38-39)

>>18277843
Talking about this is pointless. Nearly everyone, whether they realize it or not, already had an opinion in mind before they ever thought about the subject.

>>18277843
>God is omnipresent (i.e. present in every being)
>urr durr somehow I'll doubt Jesus (Isa)

>>18284896
I like laughing at Christcucks

This is something that evil people don’t seem to understand; God is real and He’s incompetent, evil, or even perhaps both. Putting innocent humans on Earth is a crime, you shouldn’t start in the bad place. I think of Earth as if it was Hell. The whole concept of Earth is that bad shit just keeps happening to you for no good reason.
Do not reproduce. Do not do this to someone else.

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>>18277843
>I'm very, very stupid.
Noted! Enjoy burning.

>>18285927
There’s a reason why intelligent people are less likely to reproduce because they can see the Earth for the Hell that it is, ignorant people cannot and just accept it.

>>18286079
Hell's hotter. Tick tock.

>>18285927
Who’s to say that only on Earth are there incompetent people in charge of stuff. Maybe our God is incompetent as well.

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>>18277843
https://youtu.be/UUr_FFelY6A?si=4e_nvVepprn-TbFX
a loving father wouldn't put his children in hell for eternity period.
watch this, will answer your questions.

>>18278778
>You cannot apple human morality to Him.
can I pear it to him instead?
also, if you meant 'apply': will you finally shut up, then? gawd's reasons (which he should not have, being omnipotent), morality etc. are not comprehensible to us, so you don't get to pretend to comprehend them any better than us, therefore stop claiming you know anything theology-related.

>>18278806
>but you wanted to judge god
god does not exist. I judge your fairy tale, and your intellect. both fail.

>>18286162
Parents, for example, are capable of creating and managing a human for at least 18 years. These parents sometimes can be incredibly stupid, yet they have the capability of creating something.

>>18277843
This explains God accurately.
Even atheists will be able to comprehend.

https://youtube.com/shorts/XL4aWDxtqVQ

>>18277843
zoomers can't reading comprehension; oh, we know. Keep going.

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>>18283187
>drugs are magic.

well yeah some kind of are

https://youtu.be/65XfIpJdlEY

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>>18284892

Christians are some of the most immoral people on the planet.

>>18277844
No father would ever condemn his child to infinite torment.

Christianity is the most lenient sect of the Abrahamic religion. Judaism? If you’re not a Jew, you’re shit out of luck, and if you are a Jew you basically have to be unemployed to be able to follow all of the laws and procedures. Islam? In addition to following laws and restrictions you have to pay for a trip to Saudi Arabia, rent a hotel, and stand around in a massive fucking crowd for hours, else you’re going straight to jahannam. The only branch more lenient than Christianity is probably Mormonism because you don’t even need to follow it, you just need a Mormon to get baptized for your sake.

>>18284712
>Or, a moving car.
>God made a car, and a driver, and you.
>The driver ditched the vehicle and put a brick on the gas peddle.
>You're still inside.
>God will respawn you on the road in a perfect vehicle if you demonstrate self-control unlike the ditcher.
That's a lie. The Christian claim is that God will respawn you on the road in a perfect vehicle if you believe a preacher in ancient Levant rose from the dead. It's got nothing to do with self-control.

>>18277843
Its all metaphorical anon, when you think of God, think instead of life itself. His love is infinte in the sense that you have your whole life gifted to you, and you can do whatever you want for as long as you want. His instruction manual (the bible) guarantees a healthier, happier life full of joy and community if you truly are faithful to its principles and live by them (this is what believing in Jesus means) or you can continue to be a cunt and be the kind of person that keeps cooking these kind of threads, the door never closes on you as long as you remain alive, that His infinte love in essence. Its not meant to be literal anonie

>>18279218
No one’s saying stealing is good retard. People are saying that torturing someone you love for eternity because of a finite crime is retarded

>>18277844
No loving father is going to infinitely torture their child for any finite crime

>>18277843
By choosing not to believe in Christ and clinging to sin, YOU are making the conscious choice to reject God. God isn't condemning you for anything, you are condemning yourself.

>>18287508
You do realize that eunuch is meant to represent celibacy in this context, right? Jesus isn't actually telling you to cut your genitals off, he's telling you to abstain from sexual immorality.

>>18281659
>venial sin
Enjoy Hell

>>18283142
It’s not. We destroy ourselves as we age through basic movement because we were never meant to live past 30

>>18289384
Lemt me guess... Orthodox? Otherwise known as the 'head-up-own-ass' sect?