What's the most tragic culture that has been lost?
>>18280579Ancient literature for sure.
>>18280581Dacian, illyrian, thracian languages
>wonderous Venice of the New World in a fertile garden of eden with amazing architecture, beautiful art, some of the most efficient agriculture on the planet, and spectacular urban planning, but with a violent and sadistic government>drain the whole basin turning it into a desert shithole, tear down the beautiful buildings and replace them with sprawling favelas with crime on every street>replacement government is still a shitheap that enables mountains of violence except now theyre corrupt and incompetent and dont even have the care for their own citizens that the Aztecs had, their one good trait
>>18280652>Many people bad, few people good
>>18280591We know several thousand dead langauges, think we can do without a couple more.
>>18280661Beautiful place with high quality of life good, ugly shithole with low quality of life bad
>>18280661>I just love the hustle and bustle of the big city!
>>18280579Atlantis, duh.
>>18280652The valley of Mexico was still one of the most beautiful landscapes on Earth, with the lake mostly intact, until the beginning of the 20th century. It was modern Mexicans who turned into a giant favela.
>>18280661in the space of a century it went from its conquerors being awed at its cleanliness to contemporary travelers going out of their way to note how filthy and disgusting its successor city was (in a time period where most cities weren't exactly the boulevards of belle epoque paris)
>>18280579Soviet Union
>>18280579The old ruling class of Europe, the aristocracy and nobility
>>18280579>What's the most tragic culture that has been lost?all history that wont exist anywhere anymore except in the database of one last blacksite library in a hundred years that will be only used as reference on how to rule the modern cattle better
Whatever was going on in Germany 1700-1800. Seemingly an endless well of genius.
>>18280579pre 2000 australian culture.
>>18280579Ice age lost civilizations, meaning Atlantis during the greater age of Sagittarius, which must have been probably more advanced than we are today, contrary to what Graham Hancock and other theorists say that it must have been only pre industrial level. There have also been recently extraordinary findings with remote sensing under the pyramids suggesting this is the case but until corrupt archeology starts digging there we can't be sure.
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"Whatever was going on in Germany 1700-1800"?
>>18281332Not lost.
>>18280579The USSR.
>>18280579GermanyKingdom of ItalyAustro-Hungarian Empire
>>18280579Confederacy States of America
>>18280579The Soviet Union
>>18280652>wonderous Venice of the New World in a fertile garden of edenHardly. Tenochtitlan had a lovely center of government, but most people lived in simple single-room houses with small fields where they were supposed to grow their food. While the warrior elite had just about enough protein to thrive, the general population had chronic deficiencies in protein and iron, leading to stunted growth, deformation, vulnerability to epidemic diseases (even before the Europeans arrived) and short lifespans. This wasn't limited to Mesoamerica (similar health conditions were known to exist in ancient Egypt and Rome), but the lack of protein was more severe in Mesoamerica. There's a theory that the ritual cannibalism linked to human sacrifice in and around Tenochtitlan was more of a pragmatic matter, meant to give more people access to meat.>the care for their own citizens that the Aztecs hadThat care was very limited. For the most part, commoners were just subjects. The Aztec elite had extensive sumptuary laws to keep it that way; if you were a commoner, you could not cover your lower legs with cloth of any kind, and you could not wear cotton garments at all. Certain types and patterns of cloaks were also off-limits, and you likely weren't allowed to own any weapons of war. The government also had the right to press you into service on infrastructure projects like the ones in your pic, which had a very high death rate due to malnutrition, exhaustion, accidents and retaliatory violence if you disobeyed orders or worked too slowly.
>>18282340I don't know how spanish mexican agriculture worked, but if they used that water for large scale irrigation rather than chinampas, total yields probably grew. Chinampas have awesome yields per area, but I can't imagine they have very high yields per amount of water expended.Also lack of iron is clearly due to a lack of iron-rich crops or meat (i.e. domesticated animals). Not exactly their fault they didn't have those.
>>18282273Hello there, mobile users
>>18282359>I don't know how spanish mexican agriculture workedThe Spanish organized agriculture regionally instead of locally. They used the increased stability and political centralization to turn previously disputed and fought-over land into long-term farmland. That's why, after the initial shock of disease which killed most of the population, Mexico's population grew at a healthy rate throughout the Spanish era. Indigenous civilizations had a problem where their population kept outgrowing the productive capacity of localized agriculture in a politically fractured region, leading to cities being founded, booming, then declining rapidly under pressure from hunger and opportunistic infections. If textbook Malthusianism ever applied to any region in the world, that region was Pre-Columbian Mesoamerica, with ancient Egypt and its Nile flood cycle being a distant second.
>>18282340>>18282359>>18282404>but most people lived in simple single-room housesActually, Tenochtitlan apparently mostly, or at least also often had commoners living in multi room apartment compounds kinda like Teotihuacan, though not nearly as large/lavish as those were. I'm not quite clear on exactly how common these were in Tenochtitlan but the sources I can find on specific known Tenochca households show structures with multiple rooms and describe them as compounds.>the general population had chronic deficiencies in protein and ironIf you're referring to Harner's Protein deficiency hypothesis (and I assume you are based on "the ritual cannibalism linked to human sacrifice in and around Tenochtitlan was more of a pragmatic matter"), that has been debunked for ages: He solely focused on the lack of red meat in the diet and ignored Nixtamalized maize, beans, chia, amaranth, spirulina, insects, fish, reptiles etc that were eaten. If you have a source establishing a protein deficiency being the case even with that all accounted for, link it.>which had a very high death rate due to malnutrition, exhaustion, accidents and retaliatory violence if you disobeyed orders or worked too slowly.Source? I've never heard this before and am skeptical. You're correct about sumptuary laws, however (Well, probably: What you describe with them is what our sources say, but if you look at Yautepec, Cuexcomate, etc, we see commoners which chocolate drinks, access to elite goods etc, just not with the frequency nobles had them, which may suggest sumptuary laws were more a on paper then in practice thing, or maybe Tenochtitlan was just especially classist)> their population kept outgrowing the productive capacity of localized agricultureThe Valley of Mexico wasn't even at half it's agricultural carrying capacity IIRC, but sadly I lost the paper which talked about this.
>>18280579AmalekI genuinely wonder how they functioned and why did they go to war with the tribes
>>18282340>this cotton retard is back
>>18283483Amalek is like saying "nigger".https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D7%A2%D7%9E%D7%9C%D7%A7#HebrewIt either derives from "amilahhu" (territory in Hurro-Akkadian) or "amu leku" (the Asiatic, miserables, in Egyptian).It was probably is added to the Chronicles of Judah by the later Israelites, as known as Phoenicians, who saw the southern nomadic tribes as barbarians.
