I really vibe with it , but it seems like such an ethno-religion and I would be such an outsider. Thoughts on this and what I should do?
If enough Indians get together, you can have your own orthodoxy.
>>18283660>what I (brown) should do?jesus said if you want to help the heavenly kingdom then your kind should cut your balls off Matthew 19:12
>>18283660You would fit in the Catholic church nicely
>>18283662This, and they'd probably make some obscure reference to that apostle that went to India and how his efforts were curtailed over time.
>>18283660I would focus less on denominations and trying to fit yourself in and focus on developing a personal relationship with Christ first. You don't want to see the whole thing as a fashion accessory and instead see if you can really find value in what the words say and praying to get yourself in sync first.
>>18283660become Saint Thomas Christian or an Evangelical, they provide culturally Indian religious services, you would not find spiritual fulfillment in a foreign church.
>>18283665Matthew 19:12 discusses three types of eunuchs: those born unable to marry, those made eunuchs by others, and those who choose celibacy for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Jesus emphasizes that not everyone is called to marriage, and those who can accept this teaching should do so.Retard.
>>18283795>those who choose celibacy for the sake of the kingdom of heavenYes, that is what all non white ought to do. Jesus was wise.
>>18283660If you want to become judeochristian go catholic or evangelicalOrthoshit is such a pathetic altright larp is not even funny, anyone who's not a greek or slav claiming to be orthocuck is a reactionary incel timmy larper
>>18283830what the fuck does timmy even mean at this point, it originally meant white supremacist I suppose (due to a nazi named Tim? idk) but now it does not mean anything at all
>>18283830Speaking of pathetic larps, here's this retard who larps as a Muslim.
>>18283911I am a Muslim
>>18283830If only you knew what the catholic church does>>18283911Who would want to larp as a Muslim XD
>>18283962If I were to convert to judeochristianity I would be catholic or protestants as these are the only inclusive universalist sectsOrthodoxy is inherently racist and an ethnic religion of slavs and greeks
>>18283981There is an Indian Orthodox church though
>>18283660If you really connect with it then this ethnic stuff shouldn't matter and whichever orthodox community you join will eventually recognize you as a true believer if you're devoted. I know a guy who is Nepalese and goes to a greek orthodox community and they're more than okay with him. Contact an orthodox church near you and start attendance.
>>18283660>but it seems like such an ethno-religion and I would be such an outsider.attend an Antiochian parish. they've always been historically very diverse
Join the Malankara Orthodox Church
>>18284233Protestantism is also valid so I half agreeAnything outside Catholicism and Protestantism in judeochristianity is a joke, """orthodoxy""" is literally ethnic folk religion rebranded as judeochristianity
>>18283660nah orthodoxy is already full of larpers as it is
>>18283830>>18283867in my area / social media circles its usually spics who larp as orthocucks
>>18284360Aren't you that Singer spamming pedo defender and LARP advocate? Look bid everyone knows neo rabs aren't real jews. Christians are the last Jews through the Essenes.
>>18284233Popes Leo III and St. Gregory the Great prove Orthodoxy is right and that modern day Rome is in error. There is no bishop of bishops.
>>18283660Not at all. Some of the [ethnicity X] jurisdictions can be ethnically cliquely depending on the parish. But Antiochian has evolved into basically the convert + miscellaneous church - my parish is practically majority-convert. ROCOR is also very convert-friendly. And obviously OCA - if you live in America - is a convert jurisdiction.
>>18284688If that's the case why do you catholics use the 'apostolic church' cope to handwave away why a lot of pre-reformation churches don't treat the pope's word as god's word
>>18283830>judeochristianNo such thing.Judaism has more in common with Islam than Christianity; Christianity has more in common with Islam than Judaism.
>>18284696Really? You're hiding behind that to cope?
>>18283660Just becomr Catholic bro. It won't be weird and it's superior if that is the vibe you are feeling. Yes I think you kind of would be looked at as weird to other Orthotards if you converted to it and they probably wouldn't really accept you.
>>18283981>an ethnic religion of slavs and greeksPatriarchate of Alexandria: Egypt and all AfricaPatriarchate of Antioch: Lebanese, Levantines, Arabs. Patriarchate of Jerusalem: Palestinians, Levantines, Arabs.OCA: AmericansChurch of China: ChineseChurch of Japan: JapaneseRussian Orthodox: Uralic, Turkic, Mongol etc minorites in addition to RussiansPatriarchate of Rome: Western Europe before 1054A nationality gets their own jurisdiction after humbling themselves and being under an existing for long time. Jesus himself was a "racist" - he told the Caananite women it wasn't good to throw the children's bread to the little dogs & that he came to gather the lost sheep of Israel. Only when she humbled herself did he help her.
>>18284705>Choosing a Christian denomination based on vanityDefeats the purpose. He wants Orthodoxy but it seems harder. If it's harder that means one should do it.
>>18284736Bro he will not be accepted by Orthodox as an indian and you know it.
>>18283660Why not be an Indian Christian?Or is that not trendy wherever you are?
>>18284688Nah. Maybe around 14 Church Fathers did exegesis on "on this rock I will...". Only 2 thought the rock was Peter. Majority said the rock was the faith expressed by Peter and his statement. A couple had different interpretations to both.Peter had no papal veto, infallibility or supremacy. Paul called a council calling him out for Judaizing/hiding from Gentiles. The council agreed together (Peter included) that Paul was right and resolved the issue.Hence it is the Church acting together that is infallible, not the bishop of Rome.
>>18284755There's literally an Indian in my parish.I look forward to seeing him tomorrow morning.
>>18283830more importantly, what kind of judeomudslime are (you)?
>>18283660>Joining a religion for any reason other than genuine belief that it is true.You larpers who want to find the "coolest aesthetics" will never be satisfied because you have no intention of actually engaging with religion as anything more than a fashion statement. So once you get tired of Christianity you'll move to paganism till you get tired of that and move on to buddhism and so on and so forth. Who knows you might even run the full circuit and end up back where you started.
>>18284682>Popes Leo III and St. Gregory the Great prove Orthodoxy is rightCan I get a QRD?
>>18284233>if I lie in capslock people will believe me
>>18284233>THEY HAVE NO COMMON AUTHORITY, NO CONSENSVS ON DOCTRINEIt is Catholics who have no consensus. Eastern Catholics have the same theology and rituals as Eastern Orthodox, yet the Catholic Church accepts them as 100% Catholic solely because they agreed to accept the lie of Papal supremacy. Then you have traditionalist Catholics, liberal Catholics, liberation theology Catholics, tridentine Latin-rite Catholics, anti-Latin rite Novus Ordo Catholics, neutral Novus Ordo Catholics, etc - all of whom are considered 100% Catholic and in communion. Pope Leo X condemned Modernism as a heresy, then 50 years later a Modernist Pope and his Modernist succesors incorporated Modernism into the structure of the Church via Vatican II. If not even the Popes have consensus, how would the Catholic church?
>>18284767Pic related is the vibe you're giving rn
>>18284801"Only Protestant Christians actually believe in their religion" Is certainly a take, I'll give you that.
>>18284810Yet Orthodox and Catholics have orders of magnitude more martyrs... people who believed so hard they died for their beliefs...Really makes u think...
>>18284810>>18284823https://chatgpt.com/share/69621a74-659c-800b-a3de-3fc1f2ce8715
>>18284766The so-called """"reconquista"""" (IE the settler colonialism and genocide of indigenous iberians by visigothic germanic invaders) also targeted mozarabic judeocrossverminNo such thing as judeomuslim, no bigger force on earth antagonic to kikery than Islam while crossvermin are literal philojudaics
>>18284726Yes the nailed kike was a zionist how thought of goyim aa dogs and judeochristianity is a necrophile shabbos goy humilliation cult, and all the ones you mentioned are either coptic of miaphysitic, not traditional orthocuck (slav or greek)
>>18284361The only thing wrong about judeochristian term is that is reduntant, as by saying christian you're already calling you a worshipper of a transvestite nailed kike who thought of goyim as worthless subhumans, christianity is a judaic supremacist cult tailored for goyim
>>18284971>no such thing as judeomuslimfuck off lying piece of shit. all wahhabis are jewish puppets. Has been the same since the time jews opened the gates of Damascus and Jerusalem to ayy-rapesAs for Christianity, don't worry too much about us. We know who we are, and we know who's against the True Faith. pic related, one of the earliest refutations of your lie, dating back to 1st century AD.
>>18284975>>18284975Wrong. Even in Isaiah, it says "In you the Gentiles will be glorified". Jesus came to the lost sheep of Israel, but for most of Israel it was to their condemnation.>and all the ones you mentioned are either coptic of miaphysitic, not traditional orthocuck (slav or greekNo, you liar, I specifically mentioned none of the Oriental Orthodox churches. Antiochian, Alexandrian, and Jerusalem are part of the Pentarchy. I am talking about the real Patriarchate of Alexandria, not Copts who call themselves by the same name.
>>18283660it is a mistake to believe that Indians are Hindus. they are all about God, no matter the religion
>>18284975Chud Anon is back with a new name I see.
once upon a time there were no Orthodox Ukrainians or Russians either, they were illiterate forest dwellers dressed in skins who ran around eating each other until Greeks clothed and civilized them and gave them a religion
>>18284775Pope Gregory I the Great wrote to his good friend Eulogius, Patriarch of Alexandria in the late 6th century that there were three co-equal petrine sees in the universal church.https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/360207040.htm>[...] with regard to the principality itself the See of the Prince of the apostles alone has grown strong in authority, which in three places is the See of one. >For he himself exalted the See in which he deigned even to rest and end the present life. [Rome]>He himself adorned the See to which he sent his disciple as evangelist. [Mark in Alexandria]>He himself established the See in which, though he was to leave it, he sat for seven years. [Antioch]>Since then it is the See of one, and one See, over which by Divine authority three bishops now preside, whatever good I hear of you, this I impute to myself.
>>18283660It's not cope, since it's the trve religion by definition.>>18283662Also this.
>>18283660joining orthodox is cope.
Stop being a pathetic larper and go catholic, evangelical or muslim as these are the only true inclusive and universalist abrahamic religions
it's not an ethno-religion really. It just happens to be mostly Russians. But there's Europeans, Africans, even Arabs (prosecuted Palestinians that left Gaza in the early 20th century).
>>18283662>>18287993that would be ethnophyletism, paaatrick
>>18284801I am a High Church but this is based.If you can not find God in silence and emptiness, perhaps there is something wrong with your soul.
>>18288405Absolute majority of judeochristian palestinians lived and live in the West Bank and were outright murdered or evicted by zionist european settlers
>>18288443thanks for the clarification
>>18288424it's an organizative thing, ideally each country should have it's own jurisdiction for people living there... whether that's indians or not, that's not a religious thing, that's politicsi.e. Orthodoxy in Britain would likely have a lot of migrant orientation nowadays, while in Nigeria it'd be largely Nigerian.
>>18288637Considering """orthodoxy""" is nothing more than an ethnocentric version of Catholicism one can argue Anglicanism is basically English orthodoxy
>>18284975>>18284971Why do you insult jesus if you are muslim
>>18288798That's a communist atheist larping as a Muslim, I do wonder what would Daniel Haqiqtatjou think about one of this columnists spewing such blasphemy about Isa (PBUH) tho, might send him some prints soon enough
>>18288668bro learnt about orthodoxy in /pol/ and tiktok