I believe the Soviet Union had a lot of redeeming qualities, as well as finding it incredible fascinating (far more than NS Germany) as a White nationalist. I’m not a Hitlerist, I don’t believe in Germanic supremacy and instead have a pan-Europeanist sort of view of the White race that collectivizes all as one; Mussolini being someone I admire far more than Hitler, but I don’t strictly consider myself a Fascist. Things I ideologically admire about the Union are as follows>One party system, totalizing authority with a single ruling structure, concentrating power to one official worldview by way of directing individual rights to a collective “higher mission” of unity.>Strict rule against anybody conspiring against the people through State controlled mass-surveillance, political censorship, purges, and mass-arrests and work camps to enforce cohesion amongst society>State controlled media, education, and idealized propaganda to cultivate loyalty and cohesion, promoting ideas of youthful vigor, strength, discipline, and full loyalty to the state and the people>State directed economy, heavy government steering of labor, production, and distribution turning economic life into a disciplinary system; ergo personal advancement is discouraged, whereas work of national projects and wider prosperity is ideal>Assimilation and standardization over diversity; one uniform national culture is enforced through schooling, the workplace, youth groups, and, of course, propaganda to produce one collective belief systemNot arguing that the Soviet Union was actually some right-wing utopia and I recognize that my praise is somewhat selective, but I wish people would widen their minds a bit more and look at things objectively instead of writing off the union entirely on account of the communism, considering it’s not 1970 anymore and we don’t have to worry about it taking over the world. I don’t see a point in ‘throwing out the baby with the bath water’, as they say.
One simple fact that absolutely twistes both facist's and tankie's nipples is that both are closer to each other than to current Western democracies.
>>18286689i don't think they'd even deny that lol
>>18286692Yes they do.According to tankies anything but communism is facism while actual facists consider both communism and democracies the same jewist subversion
>>18286680Begone kike.
>>18286680They shot, starved, drowned, or otherwise executed all the based right-wing nationalists and white supremacists between 1917 and 1924 and filled the positions of power they had held with the scum of the earth. Marxism-Leninism was a fatal disease Russia never recovered from.
>>18286680Soviet Union practiced state mandated population mixing to erase white minority identities to their best ability, including encouragement of intermarriage.
>>18286749source on this?
>>18286680>>Assimilation and standardization over diversity; one uniform national culture is enforced through schooling, the workplace, youth groups, and, of course, propaganda to produce one collective belief systemHalf-assed attempts at the end of its' lifespan to meme "Soviet" as a nationality into existence that only really took any brief root at all inside of RSFSR? That's the complete opposite of what they've been doing for decades beforehand.
>>18286680>and instead have a pan-Europeanist sort of view of the White race that collectivizes all as oneThat means you are left-wing. You are envious at the heights Western Europe has achieved and want to tear them down and slop them into modern Muttamerica 2.0The Soviet Union was the greatest dysgenics program ever conceived in history. It completely eradicated the upper classes, a substantial chunk of the middle classes, which disproportionally left Jews in charge to fill out these positions. Russia is now led by Jewish-Russian oligarchs, when 110 years ago German-Russian nobility gave this Asiatic country a distinct European character.
>>18286680The nazbol corner is down to the left.>>One party system, totalizing authority with a single ruling structure, concentrating power to one official worldview by way of directing individual rights to a collective “higher mission” of unity.Neoliberalism and Libtertarianism are not the pivot point of political philosophy, what you describe has been a common virtue, whether from button up by the general culture or from top-town by society. Individualism is a recent phenomena.>Assimilation and standardization over diversity; one uniform national culture is enforced through schoolingThe Soviets have destroyed all cultural habits, traditions and heritage of all their ethnicities, including the Russias. What they have have left alone is a superficially traditional aesthetic so retards like you voluntarly support the ,,we hate everything your grandfathers stood for and will trample over it'' party. The current liberal countries do the same with their civic nationalism, might as well support them if all that matters to you is a superficial aesthetic.Also, all Eastern European States which sprung out from the Soviet Union (or Yugoslavia) have higher abortions, worse birth rates, higher rates of AIDS and more widespread prostitution than the West.The only thign which was respectable about the Soviet Union was their resilience to suffer loses in war which would have crippled any other country, but if they were even a bit more competent they wouldn't have have lost almost a 6th of their population during WW2.
>>18286680Slavic National Bolshevism is the future of Europe
>>18286680The first point is very anti-right wing because it goes against traditionalismYou are not right wing and your post is fakeCommunism always seek to erase identity and tradition
>>18286880Spengler spoke of this
>>18286680It was essentially fascism for jews until Stalin came along and fixed everything.
Maybe because modern "right-wing" factions, in both US and Europe, are closer to Bolshevism in their core. They just happen to be against immigration or Lgbt (and even in the latter they still often allow "trad" gays and trannies), and just use nationalism as a way to gain support from peopleFew if any of these want the restoration of the monarchy, or are truly pro-religion, and many would hate and be hated by conservatives from their countries from a few decades ago.
>>18286680This post was pretty obviously made by a teenager so I won't be too mean- but pick up a book, anon.
>>18286680Without Hitler killing 30 million orcs, the European Union and NATO wouldnt exist and we would be the AIDS infested, impoverished krokodil junkies instead, whose future is doomed and depends on a gook country.Thank you Hitler for creating Europe.
>>18286692They would. In the tankie view, Western style democracy is basically a more moderate version of fascism.
>>18287067You shouldn’t forget to thank the Bolsheviks for starting a civil war that led to so much deaths then purging and executing thousands once they took power.
>>18286680>as a White nationalistYou outed yourself right here. Why is it so hard for you to mimic and blend in?
>>18286689>One simple fact that absolutely twistes both facist'sYockey was advocating supporting the USSR back in the 50s. It was already common knowledge that capito-liberalism is the great Satan.
>>18286749>Soviet Union practiced state mandated population mixing to erase white minority identities to their best ability, including encouragement of intermarriage.Yeah and you forgot they just wanted everyone to be Slavs, they literally made Kazakhstan majority white by flooding them with Slav and German immigrants and capitals of the other stan countries were majority Slavic/white in the high 80+%, they wanted to replace the non-whites ironically enough but failed because Slavs stopped breeding as much as Central Asians did.
>>18287090>they literally made Kazakhstan majority whiteMost Kazakhs are Asians though? If anything it looks like the Soviets favored east Asians over Arabo-Jeet strains from the south. It's a shame they didn't push them out of Uzbekistan too.
>>18286680The problem is that they didn't genocide all the volga Tartars, the most dysgenic population on Earth.
>>18287095"Arabo-Jeet strains" look eugenic as fuck compared to Tartar mongs.
>>18287090No they wanted to exterminate Caucasian populations that actually look white by mixing them with central Asian roachsects.
>>18286721Anyone supporting this ideology is worse than a nigger.
>>18287122Two birds with one stone
>>18287163The only ones who need to be bashed in the head with stones are Volga Tartar roaches with non-caucasoid features, and their central Asian kin. No mixing but total extermination.
All Volga Tartars and those mixed with them need to be liquidated for the sake of European civilization.
Imagine bashing their heads in with boulders. Till nothing remained of their putrid deformed faces and instead bloody piles of broken flesh and bone, an improvement.
>>18287168>>18287170Let's Love instead. I'll Love anything that moves
>>18286680Republicans hated communists. Just admit you have no political understanding or philosophy, just internet vibes.
>>18287261I love all of humanity except for Volga Tartars, Bashkirs, Chuvashes, Nogais.
>>18286680The two-superpower system worked for a long time. When it worked well, it worked this way:> The entire world is divided up into two spheres, our camp and their camp> Every other nation becomes a client of either one or the other> As a client, they have defense rights; but the leading superpower also has the right to insist that the client states not get out of hand> During most time, perceived conflict between the two superpowers can be used to stimulate growth, popular support, or increased productivity> maintaining stability is a priority, where lesser conflicts are subordinatedSo, the Soviet Union may have been the godless satan that we all know they were, but you also didn't have to worry about India and Pakistan dragging the rest of the world into WW3; and the arab terrorists kept their nonsense in their own neighborhood.
>>18287128No I think mentally impaired brutes genetically wired for violence are worse than nazbol spergs actually
The overwhelming character of the productive proletariat is White, attacks on White people are a form of class collaboration and a war on the working class.Women, browns, blacks are all net negatives in productivity. They are lumpenproles if not actual bourgeois due to their protected status and exploitation of the working class though the organized violence that is taxation and repatriation of both basic and surplus value through social programs and institutions.Do not hate on Lenin or Marx, they are FIRMLY on OUR side. We ARE the working class. Do not let class collaborationists shitlibs gaslight you into thinking they’re Communists, Socialists, or Revolutionary leftists.They are spiteful mutants who hate normalcy.If WE stopped showing up to work, society would crumble, that is how you know for certain we are the proletariat.Our character is White and attacks on Whites is another form of assault on the proletariat. This specific attack is levying the reserve army of labor against the working class. It is an imperial specific form of attack. Shitlibs who defend immigration of any kind are class collaborationists. Traitors to the working class.The Revolution must be swift and global.We will win.
>>18286695No, actual fascists considered Stalin a fascist and Stalin and Mussolini exchanged letters talking about how they were both fascists and the only two sane people in Europe.Italy and Russia fighting the rest of the world would have been kino.
>>18287369No because at least a spear chunking nigger hunting lions in his underwear doesn't have to present his papers to someone that can kill him for slandering some random guy that was deeming his leader
>>18286680Fucking dumbass retard. You forgot Stalin banning abortion, settling Europeans in Asia, prioritizing living standards of European Russia, massacring Han Chinese and Turkics, etc. Stalin was the most pro-European leader of the 20th century.
>>18287408>Stalin was the most pro-European leader of the 20th century>Murdered 40 million peopleActual schizophrenia
>>18287411>attributing all WW2 deaths purely to Stalin>instead of those who started WW2 like shitler and faghillFucking dumbass retard.
>>18287422I'm not counting WW2, Stalin killed 5 to 10 million Ukrainians just with the Holodomor in the 1930s. Then there's the gulag system, the mass purges, the massacres like Katyn, forced collectivization of agriculture (non-Holodomor famine deaths), the radiation deaths from the nuclear program (they used POWs and political prisioners to mine uranium with no protective equipment), etc.The contrarianism in this board is fucking tiresome, I don't know if you guys are mentally ill, just never opened a history book or are trolling. Even Soviet historians* acknowledged millions of deaths to Stalin's rule. * Maksudov, S. (Poteri naseleniya SSSR, 1989): 9.8 million "abnormal deaths" between 1926 and 1937.
>>18287431>they used POWs and political prisioners to mine uranium with no protective equipmentAlso Soviet solders that had been captured by the Germans and returned by the Allies btw. They counted Soviet soldiers that had been in contact with the West as "tainted" by foreign ideas and treated them as regular political prisioners.So even if you were a loyal Soviet soldier you could have ended up in the Gulag system.
>>18287395Mussolini-Strasser-Stalin alliance, vgh what could've been
>>18286680You're not right wing. You're just a statist.
>>18287431>>18287445hello where are the proofs?? bomes??
>>18287589https://necrometrics.com/20c5m.htm#Stalin
>>18287565What's wrong with that?
>>18288061Nothing. But it's retarded to call yourself right-wing while salivating over a communist country.
>>18287431The Holodomor is a bunch of Ukrainian seething mythmaking backed up ideologically by ideologically anti-Soviet/Anti-Russian Western historians who refuse to actually deal with the Soviet archives.The Holodomor did not kill 5-10 million people, nor was it really the fault of Stalin, it was a famine caused by extreme weather leading to wheat rust, which led to Ukrainian peasant landlords and Ukrainian Nationalists to use the wheat rust crisis to campaign against modernization and collectivization by destroying food stores, slaughting animals, attacking food distribution networks etc. >Then there's the gulag systemDidn't even have a high death rate (average 2.5%) and only had a prison population analagous to the United States>The mass purgesAffected around 800k people and again, not a instant death sentence. Swaths who were purged would come back onto the scene later, famously Korolev.Soviet Police, Secret Police, Intelligence, Prison Guards etc never exceeded 0.2% of the population, meanwhile average in a country like the US is 1%.> the massacres like Katynboo hoo, Polish bandits and glowies from a hostile state squatting on Soviet land and always engaging in anti-Soviet espionage got btfo'ed>forced collectivization of agricultureModernization.Stalin's worst crimes are the mass population transfers and the Purges, but even they were actually pretty largely standard practice norms for the time. Nobody bitches about Churchill, George, Victoria and the British Empire engaging in mass ethnic exoduses and lets be real Stalin's ones were often far more justified as you often had the majority adult population of entire ethnic groups acts as literal Fascist collaborators. The purges were bad because they hit largely good faith Communists (who have a tendency of being factional and loud mouthed) while corrupt self interested apparatchiks and liberals knew to shut their mouths and play the game and just hold out and worm their way up the party.
>>18286680Fuckin fag, go back to school, socialize, visit Eastern Europe. Fuck face.
>>18286680People had sex in the USSR which is all that matters.
It really boggles the mind how after half a century of right-wing anti-communist propaganda, rightists like >>18288144 became Soviet Russia's biggest glazers overnight after Russia invaded their neighbor that actually managed to fight back somewhat.You never hear about the Holodomor except from lolbert and ancaps circles.
>>18288330Before Russia invaded most people knew nothing about Ukraine or Ukrainians so some would go namedrop the Holodomor to seem interesting. Now Ukraine is a libshit talking point it's lost its mystique, aside from that nobody really gives a fuck about starvation under the Soviet Union because that was pretty par the course.
>>18288478So it's just contrarianism?
>I believe the Soviet Union had a lot of redeeming qualities, as well as finding it incredible fascinating (far more than NS Germany) as a White nationalist. I’m not a Hitlerist, I don’t believe in Germanic supremacy and instead have a pan-Europeanist sort of view of the White race that collectivizes all as one; Mussolini being someone I admire far more than Hitler, but I don’t strictly consider myself a Fascist.
>>18286680Based beyond belief
>>18288650I mean honestly why would anyone genuinely care about a couple hundred thousand Ukrainians starving unless they were Ukrainian themselves?
>>18288966>couple hundred thousandit was millions, you rusjeet faggot
>>18287115Why are you this mad about an extremely niche ethnic group dude
>>18289016Why shouldn't I be? They are non-whites living in Europe.
>responds immediately to a reply on a day old post of hisBarneyfag-tier
>>18286689nah it actually doesnt bother me at all. why would it?
>>18287411>>18287422I think we need to start measuring deaths by Protestantism the same way we calculate communism deaths
There is no way East Germany was that bad. The people "escaping" were probably just degenerates who wanted drugs or something