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>>18286919So what
>>18286919Irrelevant since iberians arent I anyway apart from the few descendants of goths
>>18287002Big news for haploautists of the puzzler bent. For the noble haploautists, not Apricity peasants who look at haplogroups as though they're people and races. Who are probably of an ignoble haplogroup stock themselves, who's with me?
>>18286926>>18287002Why are you guys trying to be nonchalant? I1 has been extremely confusing for a while now. It's confirmed since December 2025 now however that Iberian I1 is basal. This is breaking .
Bump
>>18287082It's something we've known with 99% certainty for years now. Whats confusing is that we lack several millenias between that Iberian guy and all modern I1-men, who descent from EBA Scandinavian bloke and not from that Iberian guy.
>>18287978This is how it went down>central Iberia>destination: Norway>I1 guy walks 29 km>exits the woods>rapes one farmette>goes back into the woods>25 years later>rapespawn grug man exiled into the woods for refusing to eat wheatslop>has spirit vision>walks 29 km to the nearest village>rapes and escapes back into the woods>rinse, repeat>120 generations, 3000 years later>I1 is in southern Norway
>>18287978Probably was straightforward enough. Iberian refuge, absorbed by western farmers, western farmers absorbed by TRB, TRB absorbed by incoming CW, founder effect in Scandinavia.
>>18287978Next question is when it got to Iberia. If I were I1 I'd be excited about this. Would be irrational excitement like with all haploautism but that's some good LGM location scouting, lots of cool paintings as well. Nice little 10+ky hispanic vacation.
>>18287978>Whats confusing is that we lack several millenias between that Iberian guy and all modern I1-menWe don't. We have the intermediate mutation and also now Warburg separate branches
>>18288799Basal M253 = Iberian Two branches form 12000KYA. One dead end Warburg line (EEF) and One closer to modern I1 in SF11 and Ostorf (SHG/WHG). Modern i-S63 is a part of the L804 line just as Ostorf and SF11, so it followed this path. It just had a final mutation sequence until spreading with modern I1
>>18288804L840 is the key here. It's upstream of modern and Ostorf/SF11. We can basically ignore the EEF Warburg line
>>18287990Rape isn't likely
>>18290299yes it is not just likely, it was the norm.Sadly, our ancestors had no concept of consent.
>>18290308Your fanfiction is not reality
>>18290299>Rape isn't likelyCorrect, it was guaranteed.
