Jesus Christ = Osiris-Dionysus?
He is more of a Zeus Krishna guy.
It can get kinda messy, but essentially one half of the main divine pairing. Includes most entities that are lost to waters or rivers, or related to wine, including Varuna (despite the fact that he is equated to Mithras instead, perhaps Mithras' bridegroom), Ganymede, Hyacinth, potentially Castor, among others.My problem with Dionysus is his association to the messed up rites of "the mother goddess" cult which I think its just a messy interpretation that has gotten confused in this game of telephone we call life.Plus cosmic cataclysm of a possible destroyed star (in which Osiris comes to play, as does Amon), or a crash which has altered the order and perhaps the metaphysical energy between planetary bodies.And misplaced bodies that replaced others, adding in to the confusion, plus floods which obviously are never a good thing as things get corrupted and messy Which goes back to how you can say that the mind becomes scrambled or lost whether it's by alcohol, drugs, convulsions, concussions among other things depending on what we are describing can also include electrical imbalances.It's a very complicated subject when you try to touch upon everything because there's just so much that people have also just messed up with their own creativity and interpretations for fun rather than await for a message to arrive so that they can interpret what it means.
Oh there's also Baldr, Aglibol, and others. Sometimes associated to the Moon as it has become a replacement of sorts. Achilles, and whatever.
>>18287558Jesus was real.He was also a literal incarnation of Dionysus.The Judaizers rewrote history because the actual Jesus debunked monotheism.
>>18287558I don't remember the part of the Bible where Jesus got smashed on wine and bedded a bunch of women
>>18287558Jesus Christ=Jesus ChristOsiris=False godDionysus=Another false god
>>18287602How would he have debunked monotheism?
>>18287692He was Dionysus incarnate. The Judaizers rewrote history to make him the Jewish messiah.
>>18287704I asked how would he have done it? What real link is there to Jesus Christ being anything like Dionysus.
>>18287587>It can get kinda messy, but essentially one half of the main divine pairing. Includes most entities that are lost to waters or rivers, or related to wine, including Varuna (despite the fact that he is equated to Mithras instead, perhaps Mithras' bridegroom), Ganymede, Hyacinth, potentially Castor, among others.I think it's less that they are the same person and more that the principles are shared because of simply what purpose religious rites and mystery rites serve.
More dumb Richard Carrier shit? /his/ is just r/atheism at this point and this is what you Carrier worshipers look like.
Are u an Apollonian
>>18287754obsessed
>>18287907>dumb le Jesus myth posting yet again>point out the main modern source of this myth (and what his followers look like)>OBSESSEDSAD and FAGGOT
>>18287580Hail Zeus in fucking English lmao
>>18287918Your fascination with the way those guys look is not a very persuasive counterargument ot anything.
>>18287932>Your fascination with the way those guys look is not a very persuasive counterargument ot anything.Richard Carrier is a 100% confirmed joke, and I'm sorry if atheists still worship him AND have moved on from the fat neckboard fedora look to the AIDS/Vegan fag look.
>>18287933I have decent confidence that Jesus mythicism will become acceptably mainstream among academics in the not-too-distant future if only they're willing to consider the work of Carrier and other mythicists, and I look forward to seeing how Christianity responds to the shift, if only because I have a hard time guessing at how they might.
>>18287938>I have decent confidence that Jesus mythicism will become acceptably mainstream among academics in the not-too-distant future if only they're willing to consider the work of Carrier and other mythicistsHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAAHHA2 more weeks.> and I look forward to seeing how Christianity responds to the shiftThis shift will never happen so there is nothing to look forward to.
>>18287621Reminder that Jesus died 2000 years ago and never returned, therefore he is a false god
>>18287754Look at that fucking dysgenic face
>>18287580Just imagine how retarded you have to be to make this image.
>>18287721But also people having too much power in their hands to mess around with them and botch them.Like Elagabalus is an example that gets thrown around and I see it as a botched and corrupted version of what could have been, assuming its not an actual separate version(It could be if at some point during the cataclysm other competitive forces were around, but that would be creative writing right now that I don't want to engage in).When I say corrupted I don't want to mean like, its le ebil, but literally ruined in the way someone fucking up a recipe by switching around ingredients or the logistics
>>18288102>an actual separate versionAn actual separate entity, I meant to say. Like something separate or a bad mimic.Which also makes sense because in this earth there are many animals that tend to use those techniques of mimicking for the sake of being predatory and such so it's probably sourced from something
>>18287704Meds, NOW!Christianity=Judaism adapted for europeans. Nothing more.
>>18288102>botched and corrupted versionTo further add to that, I definitely pin the blame on women being involved in the cults and the rites.
>>18287587>floods>corruption>electrical imbalancesWith this I'm also trying to make a connection to how sometimes I view for example the Moon or the Rock from which Mithras is born and then if you remember how rocks are turned into tablets into which we write things, then when the sunlight/electricity hits it that gives you the birth of the consciousness of someone.So with the connection of the floods and the corruption I mean that throwing water upon a circuit board creates corruption.There's so much to this topic and I am so mad and angry that I don't have like-minded people to continue to work on this, while also merging in the esoteric without losing oneself to empty and purposeless creativity and theatrics.
And then you also have the issue of the fact that to me it is beyond a shadow of a doubt that the main pairing is two men.But then you have the fact that most men don't want to be paired up with men so you know there's been this effort into turning one partner into a woman (Castor, castrate) and quite frankly it's been a mess through the ages and very little interest from people in actually being honest.Or trying to change it into being two buddies, and turn them into heterosexual versions of them.Creative writing. And I'm here to say.ENOUGH.
>>18287707Not that anon but...>Son of a god and mortal woman>"I am the vine">associated with spring >associated with death and rebirth>messianic and will replace his father's old rule and create a new afterlife>associated with wine>pontius pilates interrogation is ripped off of PentheusSome people think John might have ripped off the Dionysian mystery cults, I just assume they stole Dionysus' divine story and tacked it on a Jewish rabbi, I wouldn't be the only one either, there is a group that believes Jesus stole John the Baptists movement
Dionysus versus 'Christ'; here you have the contrast. It is not a difference in regard to the martyrdom, — but the latter has a different meaning. Life itself — Life’s eternal fruitfulness and recurrence caused anguish, destruction, and the will to annihilation. In the other case, the suffering of the 'Christ as the Innocent One' stands as an objection against Life, it is the formula of Life’s condemnation. — Readers will guess that the problem concerns the meaning of suffering; whether a Christian or a tragic meaning is given to it. In the first case it is the road to a holy type of existence; in the second case existence itself is regarded as sufficiently holy to justify an enormous amount of suffering. The tragic man says yes even to the most excruciating suffering: he is sufficiently strong, rich, and capable of deifying, to be able to do this; the Christian denies even the happy lots on earth: he is weak, poor, and disinherited enough to suffer from life in any form. God on the Cross is a curse upon Life, a signpost directing people to deliver themselves from it; — Dionysus cut into pieces is a promise of Life: it will be forever born anew and rise afresh from destruction.
>>18288255>I am the vinePsalm 80>SpringSpring is literally the universal symbol for life renewal and the religion of the Old Testament already had resurrection theology (Daniel 12:2, Ezekiel 37:12).Dionysus' myth, please correct me if I'm wrong anon, to my knowledge is cyclical and he undergoes an eternal cycle of death and rebirth. In contrast, Christ has a one and done execution and resurrection. >messianic and will replace his father's old rule and create a new afterlifeJesus never replaced his father. The Son and the Father are one. >WineIt's associated with passover Exodus 6:6-7 (zoomer kek)>pontius pilates interrogation is ripped off of PentheusThis is the first I''m hearing about it. It's a very interesting point though. >John might have ripped off the Dionysian mystery cultsAlso weren't the Bacchic rites already being suppressed in Rome?
>>18288869Jesus = Tammuz. Even the holy sepulcher was a place of tammuz worship
>>18290036That's potentially yet another one of the entities influenced by the same archetype.But there is no marriage to a woman, the whole thing was meant to be metaphorical about his death or whatever.
