The psychoses of Negroes are the same as those of white men. In milder cases the diagnosis is difficult because one is not sure whether one is dealing with superstition. Investigation is compli- cated by the fact that the Negro does not understand what one wants of him, and besides that is ignorant [does not know his age, has no idea of time]. He shows a great inability to look into his own thoughts, a phenomenon that is analogous to resistance among our patients. Little is said of hallucinations, and equally little of delusional ideas and dreams. The Negro is extraordinarily reli- gious: his concepts of God and Christ are very concrete. The lec- turer has pointed out on an earlier occasion3 how certain qualities of the Americans (for instance, their self-control) may be explained by their living together with the (uncontrolled) Negroes. In the same way this living together also exerts an influence on the Negro. For him the white man is pictured as an ideal: in his religion Christ is always a white man. He himself would like to be white or to have white children; conversely, he is persecuted by white men. In the dream examples given by the lecturer, the wish or the task of the Negro to adapt himself to the white man appears very fre- quently. One is struck by the large number of sacrificial symbols that occur in the dreams, just as the lecturer has mentioned in his book Wandlungen und Symbole der Libido. This is yet another indication that such symbols are not only Christian but have their origin in a biological necessity. Carl Jung, 1912.
C.G Jung's observations concerning America:>Another thing that struck me [in the American] was the great influence of the Negro, a psychological influence naturally, not due to the mixing of blood. The emotional way an American expresses himself, especially the way he laughs, can best be studied in the illustrated supplements of the American papers; the inimitable Teddy Roosevelt laugh is found in its primordial form in the American Negro. The peculiar walk with loose joints, or the swinging of the hips so frequently observed in Americans, also comes from the Negro.[3] American music draws its main inspiration from the Negro, and so does the dance. The expression of religious feeling, the revival meetings, the Holy Rollers and other abnormalities are strongly influenced by the Negro. The vivacity of the average American, which shows itself not only at baseball games but quite particularly in his extraordinary love of talking – the ceaseless gabble of American papers is an eloquent example of this – is scarcely to be derived from his Germanic forefathers, but is far more like the chattering of a Negro village. The almost total lack of privacy and the all-devouring mass sociability remind one of primitive life in open huts, where there is complete identity with all members of the tribe.
Do you agree with Jung? Most Americans, especially the WASPs, seem to think of themselves as some sort of representatives of their European forefathers on the new continent. This is prevalent mostly among the types we cannot classify as the so-called fifty-sixters or 'mutts' in general, but who by their physical charasteristics closely resemble traditional caucasoids. But further observation and examination of this so-called "white bastion" proves quite otherwise.We could take Donald Trump as an example. Werner Sombart noted about Americans once: "they mistake bigness for greatness". Now, this trait is not found in all non-European peoples or peoples of color, especially those who have retained their Tradition. For example, an authentic Arab of the old race, a redskin Indian, an East Asian are not overly impressed by merely material, quantitative, ostentatious size, including that related to machinery, technology and the economy, or the size of the Trump Tower (apart, of course, from already Americanized individuals). It is a trait found only in truly primitive and childish races like the Negro. It is no exaggeration to assert that the foolish pride of Americans in spectacular “bigness,” in the “achievements” of their civilization, reek of the Negro psyche. Donald Trump, is essentially a white negroid. His whole stature, mindset and even the way he speaks reeks of the Negro mindset; "Big is good. Go big or go home. Big is great." and this also shows the absurdity of how most WASPs in America think of their identity as "white", even though sociological, psychoanalytical and even traditional observers all disagree.
Jung appears to assume America=the South, a false assumption. As it were, Southern whites are mainly Ulster Scots who are a race that is not really white (although they look like it) but a remnant population of nonwhite ancestries. This goes back to the Ice Age in Europe when the white race as we know it evolved and the harsh conditions of that epoch purged Negroid genetics that their ancestors had carried over from Africa as they migrated north. That said, some Negroid strains remained in particular European populations that didn't get erased through natural selection.The proof is in the pudding, Southern whites have Negroid behaviors and tastes and all who have interacted with them know this to be true.
>>18288779>Arabs don't like gaudiness Most ridiculous thing I've ever read in my life
>>18288779>and this also shows the absurdity of how most WASPs in America think of their identity as "white", even though sociological, psychoanalytical and even traditional observers all disagree.WASPs hate Trump though, most WASPs are Congregationalists, Episcopalians, etc. which are overwhelmingly Democrat these days. New England has also largely rejected the neo-GOP. Trumpism is very appealing to types like pic related who really are just capitalists obsessed with money and fuck all else
>>18288805of course they are because they live in mostly white states like Vermont where they've never seen a POC except on TV
>>18288778This one is spot-on. Case in point, the most racist white americans online are all are obsessed with blacks and cannot help to adopt black cultural trends like the obsession with interpersonal dominamce or the word 'based'.
>>18288809>Mostly white states like Massachusetts, New York, Virginia, etc.?
Not black, but Trump is 100% spiritually and mentally a Latino Caudillo wannabe Dictator. The entire Trump administration is EXTREMELY Latino Americano in its behavior >Shameless corruption to benefit family members (that whole crypto scheme, accepting jets from rich Arabs, etc.)>Blatant Nepotism (Jared Kushner even being allowed in the administration and official diplomacy)>Just outright stupidity and gaudiness (Pete Hegseth, a Protestant, having a Jerusalem Cross tattoo like some ex-con thug) >Cult of Personality (Trump class ship being just one example of many) >Performative religiosity >All the women have horrible gaudy plastic surgery and look like uncanny Barbie dolls It's incredible, really. The man who wants to deport all the Latinos is, at heart, a Latino himself.
>>18288778He's got all of this wrong and backwards, and you can look to Thomas Sowell for the elaboration.
>>18288830What a clown world
>>18288792DebunkedOut of Africa is false. Europeans are not genetically descended from African Negroes. There was no migration out of Africa. The 4 human races can be explained by poly-genesis
>extreme generalizationHoly shit people were so stupid back then, imagine being sick and this stupid doofoos is your doctor.Disgusting.
>>18289989Symbolically speaking, Jung is spot on. General patterns of behaviour are the influences of symbolic thinking, and people who cannot connect these concepts are as limited as the ones Jung highlights in these passages.
>>18288778>The almost total lack of privacy and the all-devouring mass sociability remind one of primitive life in open huts,Their germanic forefathers lived together in one shared hut. >>18288813Interpersonal dominance obsession isn't a purely negroid thing.
>>18290107>Interpersonal dominance obsession isn't a purely negroid thing.No one said it was?
>>18289917Europeans are descended from a mixture of neanderthals and North African humanoid species.
>>18290103Jung was pseud.His type of psychology never cured anybody. Same as Freud and other pseudos.Its primitive bad made psychology with no real results in reality.
>>18290151We all literally think differently about our personalities and the unconscious thanks to Jung, let alone all the quantitative evidence he banished neurosis and reframed peoples attitudes towards the self. I think you are the pseud anon. Other are discredited whereas Jung persists in most things. You obviously have never read a word of his work.
>>18290186Jung was a crypto christcuck which already is a huge red flag.Believing and engaging with ancient jewish myths and fairytales as a scientist is beyond stupid.What Jung did as many psychologists from his time, is too intelectualize psychology, intelectualize human behaviour. Its the same thing Jordan Peterson does, whom you can probably watch him talk everyday, but results in treatment are none.You are are right I have never read his books, because I'm not into scientists who are crypto christfags. Same goes Kierkegaard, I cant stand them.
>>18290618>Jung was a crypto christcuck>has never read JungYou do realise he never pursued any messianic readings of christ, and used religion and ritualistic behaviour interchangeably? You criticise what you don't understand, typical midwit activities. Same goes for the Kierkegaard slander. This board is full of geeked up materialists who think scientific objectivism is full of philosophical rigour.
>>18288617I've heard people say that Jung understood things better and Freud is essentially a projection of Jewish psychology.
>>18288830I’ve seen this take before and it’s spot on. Despite occasional goofy KKK/Nazi cosplay, the American hard right has always had a restrained Anglo Germanic vibe. Huey Long was the closest thing to an American caudillo but his style was pure Louisiana redneck, and he was more of a leftist anyway. Where did Scots/German Trump get this wacky Latin strongman style? Is it some kind of unconscious reaction to the browning of America?
>>18291886Exactly right. Jung rips Freud a new one (and most early psychologist for that matter) in a chapter in his Memories, Dreams and Reflections.
>>18288779fresh-from-the-desert arabs created dubai lol
>>18291853>The God-image in man was not destroyed by the Fall but was only damaged and corrupted (“deformed”), and can be restored through God's grace.The scope of the integration is suggested by the descensus ad inferos, the descent of Christ's soul to hell, its work of redemption embracing even the dead. The psychological equivalent of this is the integration of the collective unconscious which forms an essential part of the individuation process.He was truly a christfag. A doctor which prescribes "individuation" by given you to read the bible written by schizo semetic tribes without foreskins who who didnt know the shape of the earth.A pseud.You are a dumbass.
This OP is ok.
>>18288617you do realize you're not the body, don't you?
