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Historically, have journalists truly been protected in war zones or have they always been kidnapped and murdered despite international law protecting them?

When did the idea that journalists were allowed to roam and document war zones as a protected class develop?
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Today is the 2 year anniversary of his death btw.
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>>18288915
Like civilian news correspondents? Probably Vietnam? I think most civilian outlets like Reuters etc got their news of the battlefield situation from the Military reporters and just passed it along to the masses. This effectively gave the military and state control over the news and footage the people saw. In Vietnam you had civilian reporters on the ground filming and documenting the events and speaking to people and soldiers.

This was a big reason for the people being so antiwar in the US, they saw what was really happening in bloody detail on the news every night. First war where they really saw the reality in full color.
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>>18288915
nobody cares about this chilian illegal immigrant spic except you rusjeets, he wasn't a real american
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>>18288915

>Errol Flynn's son Sean kidnapped and murdered by the Vietcong in April, 1970
>Ernie Pyle domed by a Jap machine gunner on Okinawa
>Edmund O'Donovan beheaded by Mahdists along with all of the other Europeans captured at El Obeid

War journalism has always been a risky business.

>>18288994

This, Coach Redpill was a Communist parasite who got what was coming to him.
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>>18288994
He was literally born in Berkley, California. How is he not American?
>>18289058
Explain.
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>>18289058
>>Edmund O'Donovan beheaded by Mahdists
What proof do you have this occured?
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>During the winter of 1863, Sherman had an extended row with New York Herald reporter Tom Knox, who had written an editorial highly critical of the Union performance at Chickasaw Bluffs and repeated the old charges that the general was insane and "a frothing at the mouth mad dog." Sherman had a violent hatred of reporters ever since the press had called him a lunatic when he was commanding in Kentucky during the fall of 1861 and believed they were out-and-out liars at best, Confederate agents at worst. He ranted that Knox was a spy and "infamous dog" who had given away information about Union strength and tactics in his report about Chickasaw Bluffs and sought to have him court-martialed. An army court martial panel ultimately exonerated Knox of the spying charges but he was ordered expelled from Sherman's camp and threatened with imprisonment if he came back. Sherman believed the country had no need of war correspondents and that Northern civilians learned everything about the war from soldiers' letters home anyway.

>Knox's fellow journalists rallied in his support and called on President Lincoln to overrule Sherman. On March 20, Lincoln ordered the court martial nullified and allowed him to return to the army's camp if Grant should give his consent. This Grant would not give. He wasn't going to overrule Sherman and told Knox he could come back should he make peace with him, else he would uphold the court martial's order for him to leave camp. Knox was as stubborn as Sherman and not willing to apologize. He sent the general a stiff letter saying only that he was disappointed in the bad relations between the army and the press. Sherman did not accept and replied back that Knox was of no use to this army unless he was willing to pick up a sword or musket and march and fight with it. Knox left and the Herald sent down a different reporter.
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>All in all, Tom Knox had done nothing really wrong, just writing a badly slanted report, and he was hardly the only journalist guilty of that. The long term significance was Lincoln's refusal to overrule Grant, showing his increasing trust in him.

>Grant fortunately lacked Sherman's twitchy temperment and had fewer problems with the press. During the advance down the Mississippi in the fall of 1862, New York Times reporter Sylvanus Cadawaller wrote an angry editorial reporting that Union troops had engaged in wanton plunder and destruction along the Tennessee-Mississippi border. When copies of the Times reached Grant's tent, he summoned Cadawaller there, showed him the story, and asked if it had been his. Cadawaller admitted it was and swallowed hard, believing he was probably going to be imprisoned for this. Grant to his relief admitted that indeed his troops had behaved badly and did loot civilian property, that it was difficult to do anything about that during an active campaign, and that it also required the cooperation of the regimental officers to enforce discipline. He did not condone this behavior and added that if he personally came across a soldier in the act of looting, he would have him shot.

>Grant then told Cadawaller that if he never wrote anything more untruthful than this report, he would be fine and not get in trouble at all. He indicated that he would not censor any reports or dispatches reporters made, and that it was their responsibity to print truthful and only truthful accounts or be expelled from camp. While Sherman ranted that the Union cause was doomed to defeat unless the press was muzzled, Grant asked nothing more than the entirely reasonable request that reporters not give away information about troop movements. They were welcome to write whatever they wanted about a battle or march that had already taken place, just kindly don't print any details about the army's future plans, and that was that.
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>>18288915
I felt for this guy until realizing this was the same man as "Coach Redpill". He was just some boomer sexpest purchasing hookers in third world countries. His debate with destiny is hilarious.



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