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Discuss critical study of the Qur'an:
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>>18289084
Take a bunch of Gnostic texts plus some Greek proto-scientific writings and turn them into an anti-Trinitarian polemic probably originally written in Syriac and later elevated to sacred scripture.
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>>18289084
its boring to read in english
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>>18289084
>Allah confused and Marie
The Golden Age historians. Kek
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>>18289084
Glad someone else is reading Shoemaker on this board. I think he’s right that Abd Al-Malik made it. The only problem is that stylometric analysis shows that the Qur’an has a single author and it makes more sense that it was commissioned as a single text. Rather than collecting sheafs of text, it makes more sense that it was an oral tradition written down by one man.
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>>18289466
It doesn't matter, through the power of magical thinking you can just say certain things were "corrupted" and the others conveniently not corrupted when it suits your fraud religion. Mormons do it all the time.
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>>18289525
>I think he’s right that Abd Al-Malik made it.
Considering all the relevant data to present the most comprehensive and convincing examination of the origin and evolution of the Qur'an available, Shoemaker concludes that the canonical text of the Qur'an was most likely produced ONLY around the turn of the eighth century.
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>>18289084
Is there a reason why Muhammadans don't produce works of art like this anymore?
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>>18289577
Have you read Christoph Luxenberg’s work on it? I think it demonstrates convincingly that the Qur’an is a mixture of Levantine Aramaic and Arabic. It makes sense too considering how much is taken from Syriac literature like the Cave of Treasures. Another thing too is how heavily the Qur’an leans on Jewish literature. Al Baqarah is the earliest text noted and one of the more famous, mentioned even by Church Fathers. It depends heavily on Rabbinic narratives rather than Biblical. Shoemaker does note in “A Prophet Has Appeared” that Muhammad’s mission began with the Jews of Edessa. That these figures would continue to be relevant in elite Islamic circles, particularly that of the Syrian Umayyads, presents an interesting conclusion.
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>>18289594
Muhammad never existed if he did give us a book about his life before 40 when his kabbala prophecy starts.
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>>18289612
MHMD was likely a Hebrew nickname for an Arabian warlord or a Jewish Messianic claimant who wanted to retake the Holy Land after the Jews were expelled in 617 AD by the Persians and forbidden from rebuilding the Temple.



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