Before passports? Before nation states? Before everybody lived in the cities? How did immigration work in ancient and medeival times? During the 1500 to 1800s? How did they keep track of unwanted migrations? How did it all work?
>>18291152They just killed anyone who were strangers
>>18291152They just killed anyone who looked different or funny. Japan did that till 1850
I can't speak to your broader question, but in the United States prior to 1924 there was a presumptive right of immigration. Under the post 1924 system you are presumptively NOT allowed to immigrate, only those who can acquire a visa can come, which are limited in number and have narrow criteria that many people will never be able to qualify for.Under the pre-1924 system anyone who wanted to come could just come, and there were a few categories that would exclude you. Like being a "known criminal" (prostitues and thieves), being a "threat to public health" (having infectious diseases like tuberculosis), being "likely to become a public charge" (having no money, trade, or family to support you) and after the 1870s east asians were excluded as well. But other than that whoever wanted to immigrate could just get on a ship and come over.America basically had open borders for its first 150 years. Interestingly the constitution explicitly states congress can make laws on naturalization, but says nothing about immigration. The founders didn't think about immigration the way we do, they saw citizenship as the only think worth gatekeeping, not access to the country and its job market. They wanted as many people as possible.
IDs were invented in the 1940s. "Immigration" as you or I know it didn't exist. A couple of enterprising foreigners might move to a city and if they didn't annoy the authorities they could stay. Jews had to live in ghettos. The roman empire was more curious as it did have varying social class tiers from citizens to barbarians moving about. Generally if you acted like a roman citizen and could recite your lineage people assumed you were real but there was other methods like rings and bronze diplomas.Generally it seems simply due to the smallness of "governments" in the premodern era it was defacto "open borders" however immigrants didn't have any rights like you could basically just kill and enslave them and nobody would care. Mass immigration is called an invasion
>>18291171Did japan just kill anyone who step foot on their lands tho.
>>18291187Didnt* In japan they had samurai killing all gaijin wh*Te long nose devils
>>18291152>fag from some other tribe wants to join you>heavily question him, probably beat him a bit>if he clears this test, take him to village elder>village elder decides whether to allow him to stay or not>if elder decides yes, newfag can stay but he's under probation>newfag must now prove himself according to the tribe's customs>if he accepts the tribe's customs and doesn't act like a faggot for some time, he may become a fully accepted member of the tribe>if he acts like a faggot he gets kicked out or killed
>>18291187All Europeans who arrived in Japan were merchants and/or missionaries. At first they were welcome, but after the religious chimpouts, the missionaries were fully banned on pain of deah, and only the dutch were really allowed to trade.
>>18291193Didnt they kill chinks and gooks too? They said ALL foreigners
>>18291152>Before passports?They had a sort of passport. It was more ad hoc documentation and checking. In the Ancient Near East it was illegal to move around and you were bound to your local polity or region and needed permission from the governor, or in case for Persia the Satrap to leave and you had to only go to certain places to rest and get approval to move to the next one and so on. Roman cities, especially in the Near East where spies were a threat often checked travelers for evidence of who they were and were liable to be arrested if they couldn't prove anything.> How did immigration work in ancient and medeival times?Migration is overwhelmingly large groups of people on the move who attempted to carve out a new home from the people who already lived there, only rarely are they accepted and peacefully settled. Ancient Near Eastern states often did forced migration were they would deport a large amount of people from a region and spread them across the state to break their power and move manpower into the heartlands. Modern style immigration did not exist in antiquity or the middle ages and foreigners were largely just patronised individuals or transitory merchant communities like in England>How did they keep track of unwanted migrations?The Romans usually killed them before they got there. The Romans conducted terror campaigns nearly every year across the limes to crush any peoples who might challenge them. In North Africa they had more normal relations with the Numidians and they used the army to control the passage of nomads, essentially trying to limit where they went and make sure they don't cause trouble. As migrations were ad hoc situations they had to be dealt with in that way, and it was almost always settled by force
>>18291195Yeah but they especially hated the spanish and portuguese because of catholic conversions causing a massive chimpout.
>>18291206What would happen if i lead 30 million non whites to attack canada invade it exterminate the white population there now
>>18291168>they saw citizenship as the only think worth gatekeeping, not access to the countryWasn't birthright citizenship set up from the start? How did they not put 2 and 2 together on that one?
>>18291229Birthright citizenship was only made explicit after the Civil War, but I imagine that before that it was even more of a decentralized and improvised system.I believe they also did use Jus Solis even before the 14th Amendment because of English Case Law setting the precedent that anyone born in England was one of the King's subjects, and US Courts still deferred to rulings like Calvin's Case https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin's_Case
>>18291152Single people, no one cared much, but they also had low legal standing. So if they misbehaved, there were short ways to end troublemakers. Small group, up to the local authorities if they granted them land or moved them on. Unless the higher authorities had a different view for some reason. Larger groups were a rare occasion, but that is when the higher authorities made decisions. Settle them somewhere and make sure they make no trouble, or move them on and expel them. In the middle ages and early modern era that was rare. Look at the expulsion of the Jews form England in the 13. century, they went to France and some were allowed in the cities and some moved on and spread out. The French Hugenots were allowed to settle in Prussia after their expulsion, there were German areas in South Eastern Europe and Russia where communities were settled on invitation of the rulers.
>>18291152Most wh*Tes were slaves and couldnt leave their ancestorial lands without permission from their jewish landlords.
For much of history governments were much more concerned about illegal *emigration*, you had laws tying serfs to the land and stopping them from leaving and slave patrols and stuff. And other governments trying to recruit those people to settle in their countries because that meant more tax revenue.
>>18291282Isnt that just canada?
>>18291280>ancestorialwhat it is it with barely-ESL latinxers shitting up this place
>>18291292That's the correct spelling its British English not English Simplified
>>18291282Literally no nations willingly let foreign races in. They just kill them on sight.
>>18291307literally retarded take
>>18291309Its true dipshit.They killed crackers on sight in japan
>>18291311Truly, Japan is all nations.
>>18291313They probably killed niggers in britiain back in 16th century
>>18291313Nigga racism is the natural state of things back then you just killed anyone who is a different race.
>>18291282Back then even europe they just killed any stray niggers and arabs in their lands before 1980s then globohomo jews took over made their country into mutliracial shitholes. You have to kill all jews and disband the UN and glass america with nuclear weapons to get rid of this.
>>18291168Most european nations were ethnostates with literally zero niggers and shitskins. Back then they just lynched killed all shitskin or nigger in their lands to make pure aryan master race ethnostate heil hitler 1488!
>>18291315Probably not, they'd likely be viewed with curiosity back then and not much else. In the 18th century they were even politically active and agitated for abolition of the slave trade.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignatius_Sanchohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olaudah_Equiano
>>18291152You took their women if they were hot
